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Richard Milner on a new U.S. particle accelerator

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Re: Richard Milner on a new U.S. particle accelerator

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why not finish the one in Texas? yes the facility probably needs repairs but a lot of initial work is done I would think?

I wish that would happen, the SSC design is even more powerful than LHC. But not sure Texas is culturally the optimal place for such high science these days. Part of the opposition to SSC back in the day was religious. CA or NV might be better.

Re: Richard Milner on a new U.S. particle accelerator

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The top 20 universities in the US are sitting on over a quarter of a trillion dollars in endowment money (including MIT at $15b), which continues to perpetually increase. I'd like to see them step up and almost entirely fund the creation of the EIC (the US Government could still kick in billions of dollars with little hassle). Far better to be directing their wealthy donors toward important projects like this, than another building on campus.

Re: Richard Milner on a new U.S. particle accelerator

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The top 20 universities in the US are sitting on over a quarter of a trillion dollars in endowment money (including MIT at $15b), which continues to perpetually increase. I'd like to see them step up and almost entirely fund the creation of the EIC (the US Government could still kick in billions of dollars with little hassle). Far better to be directing their wealthy donors toward important projects like this, than a…

Gotta love million dollar charity donations to schools which are unable to go bankrupt they generate so much money passively.

Re: Richard Milner on a new U.S. particle accelerator

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why not finish the one in Texas? yes the facility probably needs repairs but a lot of initial work is done I would think?

AFAICT, it's an entirely different design - it would probably cost more to retrofit the existing SSC facilities than it would to start from scratch.

More importantly, the SSC site was sold to private industry more than a decade ago.

Re: Richard Milner on a new U.S. particle accelerator

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The top 20 universities in the US are sitting on over a quarter of a trillion dollars in endowment money (including MIT at $15b), which continues to perpetually increase. I'd like to see them step up and almost entirely fund the creation of the EIC (the US Government could still kick in billions of dollars with little hassle). Far better to be directing their wealthy donors toward important projects like this, than a…

This is an argument against public investment in science and a reliance on private donor-based science. Is that really the direction we want for our country and the entities in which we want to entrust the future R&D decisions of our country?

Re: Richard Milner on a new U.S. particle accelerator

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why not finish the one in Texas? yes the facility probably needs repairs but a lot of initial work is done I would think?

This will be hosted at either Brookhaven National Lab (NY) or Jefferson Lab (Virginia). Unfortunately, National Labs need to find new large construction projects to justify their continued existence, and there aren't enough big science projects to go around. The European model of sharing a single facility (CERN) is much more sensible in that it decouples scientific prioritization and the issue of local jobs.

Re: Richard Milner on a new U.S. particle accelerator

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why not finish the one in Texas? yes the facility probably needs repairs but a lot of initial work is done I would think?

I wish that would happen, the SSC design is even more powerful than LHC. But not sure Texas is culturally the optimal place for such high science these days. Part of the opposition to SSC back in the day was religious. CA or NV might be better.

They might give physicists a hard time, yeah.

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It seems like the SSC was located there as more of a congressional boondogle than serious science?
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