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Re: Soylent 2.0

#91

Post by DarkTree » Mon, Aug 03, 2015, 1:49 PM UTC

jcfrei wrote: post #83

feld wrote: post #13

My first thought whenever I see soylent is that we have studies proving that we can't replace breast milk with baby formula. Some of that is due to immune system being passed on to the infant, but we haven't yet mastered the nutritional content of real food to the point where we can confidently say it's safe to eat Soylent or another similar product regularly. It takes me back to the whole issue with processed dog fo…

What worries me is that soylent is 20% based on soy. Some studies indicate that eating a heavily soy based diet leads to increased estrogen levels. Which can have negative side effects regardless of your gender. [0]: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3074428/ [1]: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0303720711...

yeah thanks for citing this. It was a deal breaker for me.

Re: Soylent 2.0

#92

Post by anon3_ » Mon, Aug 03, 2015, 1:51 PM UTC

jcfrei wrote: post #83

feld wrote: post #13

My first thought whenever I see soylent is that we have studies proving that we can't replace breast milk with baby formula. Some of that is due to immune system being passed on to the infant, but we haven't yet mastered the nutritional content of real food to the point where we can confidently say it's safe to eat Soylent or another similar product regularly. It takes me back to the whole issue with processed dog fo…

What worries me is that soylent is 20% based on soy. Some studies indicate that eating a heavily soy based diet leads to increased estrogen levels. Which can have negative side effects regardless of your gender. [0]: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3074428/ [1]: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0303720711...

Exactly, you don't want protein. You want whey.

These guys don't quite know what they're talking about. Or there smart and playing the sheep like a fiddle.

My fear is that these guys are laughing their way to the bank suckering people into this stuff.

Re: Soylent 2.0

#93

Post by joeriel » Mon, Aug 03, 2015, 1:52 PM UTC

normloman wrote: post #52

mahouse wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If your lifestyle does not give you time to cook, you should try to change it, instead of inventing that mud.

Right! Even if you don't like to cook, not having the time to is symptomatic of overwork.

I work about 9 hours a day and spend my remaining time with my family, volunteering, going to the gym, learning guitar, etc.

There are many times where I just don't have time, desire or energy to cook a healthy meal. A healthy meal replacement is a lot better than ordering pizza.

Don't assume that a busy lifestyle means 'overwork' - I just have different priorities.

Re: Soylent 2.0

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Post by pramalin » Mon, Aug 03, 2015, 1:58 PM UTC

Soy is a big no within the Paleo diet group I know. This is because it's potent with Phytic acid which binds to other nutrients and turn them into waste. Consumers beware.

Re: Soylent 2.0

#95

Post by arianvanp » Mon, Aug 03, 2015, 1:59 PM UTC

agounaris wrote: post #34

Stop feeding yourself with this shit and start adapting a balanced died with plenty of exercise. If you don't have time, make some!

I'd much rather see my friends drink this every day then eating fat fast food on their way home after a long job instead...

Re: Soylent 2.0

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Post by codingdave » Mon, Aug 03, 2015, 2:02 PM UTC

feld wrote: post #13

My first thought whenever I see soylent is that we have studies proving that we can't replace breast milk with baby formula. Some of that is due to immune system being passed on to the infant, but we haven't yet mastered the nutritional content of real food to the point where we can confidently say it's safe to eat Soylent or another similar product regularly. It takes me back to the whole issue with processed dog fo…

Agreed, it is good to try it, and even better that they care about the impact of the production on food and the environment.

But this should not be a startup looking for fast growth. This should be a slower process, evaluating the longer-term health of people who truly use it to replace their food. I don't know that I would go so far as to say it needs the whole clinical trial process, but it definitely needs more than "A bunch of us made some stuff in the lab, and on paper it sounds healthy, so lets sell it to the world."

Re: Soylent 2.0

#97

Post by th0waway » Mon, Aug 03, 2015, 2:05 PM UTC

kondro wrote: post #75

mrfusion wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What should we be feeding dogs?

Raw meat. Unlike us, they can manufacture all the other vitamins they need.

raw fresh meat works for us too, no supplements needed.

Re: Soylent 2.0

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Post by mattdeboard » Mon, Aug 03, 2015, 2:08 PM UTC

The incorrect hyphenation of "ground-up" in the second sentence is hilarious and kind of disgusting.

Re: Soylent 2.0

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Post by smanuel » Mon, Aug 03, 2015, 2:15 PM UTC

I'm amazed by how FDA regulates drugs and how it regulates... actually how it doesn't regulate, supplements and things like Soylent, which is not even a supplement but claims to be food "that possesses all the essential ingredients a body needs to be healthy".

Studies anyone?

Maybe it does contain all the essential ingredients but maybe the human body can't process them effectively. Maybe it's not very healthy taking all these ingredients every day.

Maybe in the long run it'll have bad effect on the microbiome, intestinal mucosa or on million other things in the human body.

Whenever someone question those things, the answer is "But it's better than junk food". Well...

Edit: Ok, my bad, it's actually regulated as a food [1].

[1] https://faq.soylent.com/hc/en-us/articles/200789315-Nutritio...

Re: Soylent 2.0

#100

Post by normloman » Mon, Aug 03, 2015, 2:15 PM UTC

joeriel wrote: post #93

normloman wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right! Even if you don't like to cook, not having the time to is symptomatic of overwork.

I work about 9 hours a day and spend my remaining time with my family, volunteering, going to the gym, learning guitar, etc. There are many times where I just don't have time, desire or energy to cook a healthy meal. A healthy meal replacement is a lot better than ordering pizza. Don't assume that a busy lifestyle means 'overwork' - I just have different priorities.

I was talking about people who didn't have time to cook. You have time to cook, you'd just rather spend it doing things you enjoy more (and that's fine.) It's the people who can't cook, even if they wanted to, because they're trapped at the office, who I'm worried about.