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Re: Soylent 2.0

#81

Post by weston »

gnoway wrote: post #15
codebeaker wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also am consistently disappointed by their reliance on wheat and soy proteins, I'm allergic (IgE) to both and struggle horribly to find typical office-lunch type food I can eat. Also being in the EU it's very difficult and expensive to procure Soylent anyway, even the alt. recipes as all of the Amazon shopping lists link to the US stores. Particularly the typical 3lb bag of flour, a couple of bucks in the US store…

This is actually a large departure from all prior formulas, which used brown rice protein exclusively. Their product has never had any wheat in it and the only soy was the soy lecithin emulsifier. This change from rice -> soy and from powdered to bottle - the wording makes it sound like you need 5 bottles per day - is making me think it's time to cancel.

I believe they're keeping the powdered option.

Re: Soylent 2.0

#82

Post by ph0rque »

Having tried soylent in powder form before, I came to the conclusion that on the 3D scales of convenience, taste, and price, it just wasn't far enough in the desirable region (low price, high convenience, and good taste) that I was ready to buy any more of it.

With Soylent 2.0, that seems to have changed: it's more convenient (no more mixing needed) EDIT: but higher-priced. I'm looking forward to trying it again (not until it's generally available, though). Hopefully the taste has improved, as well.

Re: Soylent 2.0

#83

Post by jcfrei »

feld wrote: post #13

My first thought whenever I see soylent is that we have studies proving that we can't replace breast milk with baby formula. Some of that is due to immune system being passed on to the infant, but we haven't yet mastered the nutritional content of real food to the point where we can confidently say it's safe to eat Soylent or another similar product regularly. It takes me back to the whole issue with processed dog fo…

What worries me is that soylent is 20% based on soy. Some studies indicate that eating a heavily soy based diet leads to increased estrogen levels. Which can have negative side effects regardless of your gender. [0]: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3074428/ [1]: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0303720711...

Re: Soylent 2.0

#84

Post by grandalf »

fizzbatter wrote: post #59
orangecat wrote: post #54

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There's a weird psuedo-religious aspect to it too. It's right to spend an hour cooking, and wrong to have a convenient pre-made meal, even if it's nutritionally as good or better.

Couldn't agree more. I completely admit that Soylent is not perfect, and i am also a little worried of the (many?) aspects of nutrition that we're unaware of. But many people live on Fast Food, which scares me far far more than Soylent does. But just because something is not perfect, does not warrant the very odd zealotry that i see for "normal" food and against Soylent (and like products). It's honestly, flat out bi…

for me the issue is cost, why does the 12 pack cost more than $6 + shipping? Seems like tremendous markup.

Re: Soylent 2.0

#85

Post by megaman22 »

jobigoud wrote: post #61
xutopia wrote: post #39

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I can't trust them. They have 0g of cholesterol yet it's an important part of a healthy diet. This rings of "marketing diet" to me.

Cholesterol is produced by your own body just fine. In food, it only comes from animal products, so you are basically saying that any and all vegan diets are unhealthy/marketing. Dietitians (and millions of vegans) beg to differ.

I would argue that most vegan diets are unhealthy. You have to work damned hard to get the same nutrients that are readily available in animal products.

Re: Soylent 2.0

#86

Post by ZeroFries »

fizzbatter wrote: post #45
tom_usher wrote: post #22

Can someone explain to me the appeal of this product? Why would anyone choose to drink a nondescript sludge over the plentiful ways we can get good, enjoyable & healthy food? I can certainly appreciate the science behind it - this would be a great boon to helping feed those that are less fortunate, but from what I can see that doesn't appear to be the aim of the company.

I feel like i'm in the opposite camp. Every time i see a Soylent post in any non-Soylent corner of the web (HN, non-Soylent Subreddits, etc), there's always 1 (x100) posts of: "Why would you do this!?" I feel like i need someone to describe this to me. Why is it so hard to grasp? "Fast food" makes its living off of ease and price. You could argue taste, but many (most?) people feel that a good homecooked meal tastes…

Skipping breakfast and keeping your insulin levels low for a couple more hours is probably preferable to ingesting a bunch of cheap oils and flours (soylent is only a slight upgrade to breakfast cereal, imo)

Re: Soylent 2.0

#87

Post by tom_usher »

fizzbatter wrote: post #59
orangecat wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a weird psuedo-religious aspect to it too. It's right to spend an hour cooking, and wrong to have a convenient pre-made meal, even if it's nutritionally as good or better.

Couldn't agree more. I completely admit that Soylent is not perfect, and i am also a little worried of the (many?) aspects of nutrition that we're unaware of. But many people live on Fast Food, which scares me far far more than Soylent does. But just because something is not perfect, does not warrant the very odd zealotry that i see for "normal" food and against Soylent (and like products). It's honestly, flat out bi…

I wouldn't call it zealotry, but probably resistance to change.

As with anything new and interesting, it's easy to insert a fictional future scenario that takes away what makes our personal lives rich and enjoyable.

I love to cook but it's all a bit sci-fi and uncomfortable to think that we'll all have our government mandated NutriSludge dispensed twice a day so we can all stop worrying about cooking and work harder.

Re: Soylent 2.0

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Post by normloman »

FLUX-YOU wrote: post #78
normloman wrote: post #67

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I'm also skeptical that one can live well on soylent alone. There's nothing bad in soylent AFAIK, but there's no way of knowing whether soylent is missing anything vital. With this in mind, I wouldn't be worried if someone replaced one or two meals a day with soylent. But I'd hesitate to replace all meals. I think it's irresponsible that the makers of soylent keep pushing the idea that one nutrient drink can replace…

Soylent is a step up if you currently have an unhealthy diet though, and I'd wager you could make the same argument about an unhealthy diet missing something vital.

True. And I didn't make that argument because it should be obvious to everyone. A key difference is that frito-lay doesn't imply you can subsist solely on cheetos.

Re: Soylent 2.0

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Post by anon3_ »

> Not only are its ingredients vegan, Soylent 2.0 reaches an unprecedented level of environmental sustainability with half of its fat energy coming from farm-free, algae sources. This next generation agricultural technology has the potential to reduce the ecological impact of food production by orders of magnitude, signifying a major step towards a future of abundance, a world where optimal nutrition is the new normal

Is this like a giant parody of the gullible shepherding of American consumers?

This is pablum. You can cook. You can make your own, custom meals that fit your macros. That are fresh and give you variety.

Re: Soylent 2.0

#90

Post by prawn »

tashoecraft wrote: post #53
anentropic wrote: post #32

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why? why not just eat good food? !

As someone currently using soylent to replace my lunch during the work week I can tell you the reasons not to eat "good food". I cook every single one of the my breakfasts and dinners and strive to make a balanced, healthy meal. But I struggle to consistently bring a healthy lunch. My preparation methods don't keep up, I get bored, it turns out to not be a very balanced meal, etc. So instead I use soylent to avoid ea…

If you're cooking dinner already, don't you just make a little bit extra so as to have leftovers for the next day's lunch?
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