Jeez. Is Microsoft just stupid or what sometimes? You can't charge for something that's been free for decades.
Windows 10 now wants you to pay for Solitaire
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Re: Windows 10 now wants you to pay for Solitaire
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
>but is also more enjoyable and a more fun experience for the user. It's hard not to be sarcastic about this topic, but I honestly want to know which game is more fun freemium than pay once?
Any multiplayer game when you cant buy anything that helps you win, yet receive constant free gameplay content built with moneys of those who want to buy cosmetics, i.e. league of legends, team fortress and the like.
Disclaimer: I was a dota player, which has some rivalries with LoL
The LoL model is controversial. You may not pay anything, but it will take you literally thousands of hours to get most champs and runes. Do you need all? Thats arguable. Can you get IP fast enough to buy champs as they come out? Most people cant, from what i understand.
Dota and tf2 fit in the freemium that cares for the users.
Re: Windows 10 now wants you to pay for Solitaire
#33This is what drove me to GNU/Linux. Was OS X user, saw how Apple censors GPL software from App Store, and saw 8-year-old kid with iPod touch getting his allowance stolen by a solitaire iOS game that charged him real money to cheat when he got stuck (which you can do with real cards, obviously) while advertising at him to eat at McDonald's. I decided I couldn't trust Apple anymore, and no way would I trust Microsoft.…
Yeah because software is free to maintain and develop. You can be disappointed if they make you pay for what was previously free but saying it's extortion to make people pay for software isn't very considerate to all of us who make a living of writing software, isn't it?
Yeah because software is free to maintain and develop.
Software that has already been written and does not require changes is free to maintain and develop.
There is a trend recently for newer versions of software to remove features that older versions had, for varying reasons that are invariably not in the users' interests.
Removing something but then offering to put it back in return for money or accepting ads or accepting spyware or whatever other onerous condition is user-hostile. Some would say it's just business, but to many it seems malicious.
Promoting new software that does this as being an upgrade, and trying to seduce users into making the switch by giving away the new software freely but not openly disclosing what the user will lose by switching is misleading advertising.
Re: Windows 10 now wants you to pay for Solitaire
#34Ads inside an operating system (startmenu) and in applications that are included by default (Solitaire). I never saw that, not in Android, not in iOS, not in OSX. All telemetry, key and audio capturing and auto-cloud-upload, peer-to-peer-updates, forced updates, ...these new "features"/annoyances aren't well received. What's going on at Microsoft campus?
On iOS one can simply deactivate Siri and iCloud, that's it, two settings. On Android it's almost as simple (remove GoogleNow widget, use Samsung/HTC/Sony/etc. non cloud-only apps). Windows 10 requires 25 settings to be changed, and two can only be changed in the Enterprise edition, and to decide yourself which updates should be installed the very expensive Enterprise Long Term Servicing Branch edition is required. What's wrong with Microsoft? Who would trust such an operating system? Nadella seems to be the worst CEO of Microsoft to date; he receive advance praise unjustified for earlier work that still Ballmer decided. Microsoft should fix that.
Re: Windows 10 now wants you to pay for Solitaire
#35Microsoft's official statement on this:
> Microsoft Solitaire has been free to play for the past 25 years on Windows, and continues to be free to play on Windows 10. Users can access and play everything within the game for free, including new premium features like Daily Challenges and Star Club. The Microsoft Solitaire Collection game experience and Premium Upgrade features such as Double Coins for Daily Challenges, and removal of advertisements, is identical to the Windows 8 version that has been available for purchase for years
Source: http://www.windowscentral.com/heres-what-microsoft-says-abou...
Re: Windows 10 now wants you to pay for Solitaire
#36I have older family that are winows solitaire addicts. The windows 8 options were just bad: Huge fullscreen only, sounds, fancy menus you have to navigate first...
I copied sol.exe and cards.dll from their retired XP machine.
Works great, just a bit small now. (Aislerot solitare from Linux is a clone with scalable cards, I wish windows' solitare went that way.)
Re: Windows 10 now wants you to pay for Solitaire
#37This is what drove me to GNU/Linux. Was OS X user, saw how Apple censors GPL software from App Store, and saw 8-year-old kid with iPod touch getting his allowance stolen by a solitaire iOS game that charged him real money to cheat when he got stuck (which you can do with real cards, obviously) while advertising at him to eat at McDonald's. I decided I couldn't trust Apple anymore, and no way would I trust Microsoft.…
Yeah because software is free to maintain and develop. You can be disappointed if they make you pay for what was previously free but saying it's extortion to make people pay for software isn't very considerate to all of us who make a living of writing software, isn't it?
Seriously? You're going to use the very argument I mentioned? You're arguing for "there are costs to cover" for the concept of running solitaire on computers?
There are cases where the "gotta cover the costs" argument applies, but this is not one of them.
Otherwise, I said NOTHING even close to suggesting that "software developers shouldn't make a living." That straw man you just made doesn't look even slightly like me.
Re: Windows 10 now wants you to pay for Solitaire
#38This is what drove me to GNU/Linux. Was OS X user, saw how Apple censors GPL software from App Store, and saw 8-year-old kid with iPod touch getting his allowance stolen by a solitaire iOS game that charged him real money to cheat when he got stuck (which you can do with real cards, obviously) while advertising at him to eat at McDonald's. I decided I couldn't trust Apple anymore, and no way would I trust Microsoft.…
Yeah because software is free to maintain and develop. You can be disappointed if they make you pay for what was previously free but saying it's extortion to make people pay for software isn't very considerate to all of us who make a living of writing software, isn't it?
It's Solitaire. That's the video game equivalent of "Hello, world!"
Re: Windows 10 now wants you to pay for Solitaire
#39Ads inside an operating system (startmenu) and in applications that are included by default (Solitaire). I never saw that, not in Android, not in iOS, not in OSX. All telemetry, key and audio capturing and auto-cloud-upload, peer-to-peer-updates, forced updates, ...these new "features"/annoyances aren't well received. What's going on at Microsoft campus? On iOS one can simply deactivate Siri and iCloud, that's it, tw…
WTF! Windows 10 is basicly Adware. Telemetry and Ads in the Startmenu can't be disabled, unless running the Enterprise Version! Hopefully someone invents xposed/xprivacy for Windows now.
Re: Windows 10 now wants you to pay for Solitaire
#40Ads inside an operating system (startmenu) and in applications that are included by default (Solitaire). I never saw that, not in Android, not in iOS, not in OSX. All telemetry, key and audio capturing and auto-cloud-upload, peer-to-peer-updates, forced updates, ...these new "features"/annoyances aren't well received. What's going on at Microsoft campus? On iOS one can simply deactivate Siri and iCloud, that's it, tw…
Y'know, there's one place I have seen ads in the OS before: Ubuntu's "Amazon Shopping Lens" in Unity. That was ugly and tasteless, too, and I hope Microsoft gets a similar backlash.