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Windows 10 now wants you to pay for Solitaire

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Re: Windows 10 now wants you to pay for Solitaire

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This is what drove me to GNU/Linux. Was OS X user, saw how Apple censors GPL software from App Store, and saw 8-year-old kid with iPod touch getting his allowance stolen by a solitaire iOS game that charged him real money to cheat when he got stuck (which you can do with real cards, obviously) while advertising at him to eat at McDonald's. I decided I couldn't trust Apple anymore, and no way would I trust Microsoft.

This is so blatant. Like there's nobody who can reasonably make the argument "yeah, but how else can we fund the development of solitaire computer games?" It already existed. This freemium / ad-infused software trend is effectively extortion.

Re: Windows 10 now wants you to pay for Solitaire

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This is what drove me to GNU/Linux. Was OS X user, saw how Apple censors GPL software from App Store, and saw 8-year-old kid with iPod touch getting his allowance stolen by a solitaire iOS game that charged him real money to cheat when he got stuck (which you can do with real cards, obviously) while advertising at him to eat at McDonald's. I decided I couldn't trust Apple anymore, and no way would I trust Microsoft.…

Yeah because software is free to maintain and develop.

You can be disappointed if they make you pay for what was previously free but saying it's extortion to make people pay for software isn't very considerate to all of us who make a living of writing software, isn't it?

Re: Windows 10 now wants you to pay for Solitaire

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post #4

This is what drove me to GNU/Linux. Was OS X user, saw how Apple censors GPL software from App Store, and saw 8-year-old kid with iPod touch getting his allowance stolen by a solitaire iOS game that charged him real money to cheat when he got stuck (which you can do with real cards, obviously) while advertising at him to eat at McDonald's. I decided I couldn't trust Apple anymore, and no way would I trust Microsoft.…

Yeah because software is free to maintain and develop. You can be disappointed if they make you pay for what was previously free but saying it's extortion to make people pay for software isn't very considerate to all of us who make a living of writing software, isn't it?

I work in the games industry. A lot of the freemium models are absolutely extortion. Some of the worst ones explicitly target children and gambling addicts to maximize profits on vulnerable people or abuse the family's card details.

When done right, Freemium is a fantastic model which can not only generate more revenue to the company (both short and long term), but is also more enjoyable and a more fun experience for the user.

When done greedily, it's extortion and is by far the most disgusting sales model known to mankind.

The latter is most common.

Re: Windows 10 now wants you to pay for Solitaire

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post #4

This is what drove me to GNU/Linux. Was OS X user, saw how Apple censors GPL software from App Store, and saw 8-year-old kid with iPod touch getting his allowance stolen by a solitaire iOS game that charged him real money to cheat when he got stuck (which you can do with real cards, obviously) while advertising at him to eat at McDonald's. I decided I couldn't trust Apple anymore, and no way would I trust Microsoft.…

Yeah because software is free to maintain and develop. You can be disappointed if they make you pay for what was previously free but saying it's extortion to make people pay for software isn't very considerate to all of us who make a living of writing software, isn't it?

While your point that software development is not free is valid, it's more a matter of ethics, not economics here.

While the stuff parent comment had mentioned is legal, it's at least questionable, and is perfectly valid to complain about, and even call this extortion (given that the comment was about a mild case of gaming addiction).

When I'm reminded of this I'm somehow saddened by the fact users en masse seems to have very self-respect when it comes to such stuff (and/or lack choice), so voting by feet doesn't work.

Re: Windows 10 now wants you to pay for Solitaire

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I get the feeling it was a suggestion from an enterprise customer. The other thing: it isn't needed anymore to teach people how to use the mouse. It was amazing how that one game taught a lot of computer haters how the mouse worked. That damn card game was an addictive motivator. Not a bad lesson to learn if you have an interface concept that you want people to learn and practice.

Re: Windows 10 now wants you to pay for Solitaire

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah because software is free to maintain and develop. You can be disappointed if they make you pay for what was previously free but saying it's extortion to make people pay for software isn't very considerate to all of us who make a living of writing software, isn't it?

I work in the games industry. A lot of the freemium models are absolutely extortion. Some of the worst ones explicitly target children and gambling addicts to maximize profits on vulnerable people or abuse the family's card details. When done right, Freemium is a fantastic model which can not only generate more revenue to the company (both short and long term), but is also more enjoyable and a more fun experience for…

>but is also more enjoyable and a more fun experience for the user.

It's hard not to be sarcastic about this topic, but I honestly want to know which game is more fun freemium than pay once?

Re: Windows 10 now wants you to pay for Solitaire

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I feel like these titles are pretty disingenuous, as far as I'm aware you get all the functionality of the old Solitaire game and more for free without being shown any ads at all, while the ads are only in a new game mode.

Not to say I wouldn't prefer there to be no ads at all, or that I don't find the price extortionate, but these articles seem a bit overblown.

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