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Django Girls one year later
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Re: Django Girls one year later
#12Going through their website, it seems like one of the best Django tutorials I've seen, irrespective of gender.
edit: I've been corrected, but will leave up for the argument's sake
I am not trying to attack you, more so just commenting on this type of phrasing.
Wouldn't it be more effective to simple say, "Going through their website, it seems like one of the best Django tutorials I've seen" -without the gender comment at all?
Reading that comment, it made me think that normally you consider gender when you consider the quality of a tutorial, but in this specific incidence, it doesn't even matter.
Just something minor to think about.
Re: Django Girls one year later
#13In every work environment which has an clear gender imbalance we see the same stories of the minority group being pushed out by the majority group. The minority group feel pressured to be more majority-like to fit in, receive comments like "you are good for a minority person", and feel a social expectancy to be more like the majority group. Those who don't behave correctly report of being silenced and treated in a ve…
It's always easier to pitch it as "Those ABCs are mean to us DEFs". It comes with a neat moral clarity that is lost when you have to consider that DEFs treat ABCs similarly in analogous situations.
I was going to use X and Y before I thought about chromosomes.
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#14The room is decorated with flowers and balloons, rather than being a "boring classroom" and they do fun things like cupcake tasting or yoga during the day. I suppose that could attract a certain audience but I think a number of girls could feel a bit uncomfortable being pigeon-holed as liking all things "girly". When I was in High School I would have been aghast if someone held a "guy's programming workshop" with wei…
In the industry today, we pigeon-hole as liking all things Star Wars and Star Trekkie. This is expanding the circle.
Re: Django Girls one year later
#15Going through their website, it seems like one of the best Django tutorials I've seen, irrespective of gender.
edit: I've been corrected, but will leave up for the argument's sake I am not trying to attack you, more so just commenting on this type of phrasing. Wouldn't it be more effective to simple say, "Going through their website, it seems like one of the best Django tutorials I've seen" -without the gender comment at all? Reading that comment, it made me think that normally you consider gender when you consider the qualit…
Well, the subject in question is already explicitly gendered, so making a remark like that isn't out of place.
Re: Django Girls one year later
#16Going through their website, it seems like one of the best Django tutorials I've seen, irrespective of gender.
edit: I've been corrected, but will leave up for the argument's sake I am not trying to attack you, more so just commenting on this type of phrasing. Wouldn't it be more effective to simple say, "Going through their website, it seems like one of the best Django tutorials I've seen" -without the gender comment at all? Reading that comment, it made me think that normally you consider gender when you consider the qualit…
The article has "Girls" in the title. GP didn't drag gender into the conversation.
Re: Django Girls one year later
#17The room is decorated with flowers and balloons, rather than being a "boring classroom" and they do fun things like cupcake tasting or yoga during the day. I suppose that could attract a certain audience but I think a number of girls could feel a bit uncomfortable being pigeon-holed as liking all things "girly". When I was in High School I would have been aghast if someone held a "guy's programming workshop" with wei…
Yoga is awesome. Sounds like a fun place. Hope this becomes some sort of trend at events like these :)
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#18In every work environment which has an clear gender imbalance we see the same stories of the minority group being pushed out by the majority group. The minority group feel pressured to be more majority-like to fit in, receive comments like "you are good for a minority person", and feel a social expectancy to be more like the majority group. Those who don't behave correctly report of being silenced and treated in a ve…
I'm also not so sure if it's productive in the long term to portray it as a fight at all, but short-term it probably helps to give these initiatives a little bit of personality (people like to partake in things that feel competitive). Watching the presentation, however, 'escalating conflict' does not seem to be a core message here.
It would certainly feel more natural if the squirrels and badgers were equally well represented. When we reach that point squirrel identity will become just as diluted as badger identity. As long as you're a minority, you can stick together by defining it as a common trait, but that sort of thing will dissolve very quickly in larger numbers. Being a squirrel (or being a badger) is not an identity, but it may seem that way as long as you're the only squirrel in a badger forest.
This is all a bit long-winded way of saying "I think it will be alright in the end".
Re: Django Girls one year later
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
edit: I've been corrected, but will leave up for the argument's sake I am not trying to attack you, more so just commenting on this type of phrasing. Wouldn't it be more effective to simple say, "Going through their website, it seems like one of the best Django tutorials I've seen" -without the gender comment at all? Reading that comment, it made me think that normally you consider gender when you consider the qualit…
Well, the subject in question is already explicitly gendered, so making a remark like that isn't out of place.
yeah that's fair actually. I guess it would only matter if he introduced it to the conversation. Well put.
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Do you want to go to those workshops? Why?