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The internet is a source of constant dynamic change and the flexibility to adopt new synergies is essential to maintaining best in class shared experiences.
The marketing speak is strong with this one...
No Surprises (2009)
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Re: No Surprises (2009)
#12Is that a surprise in your pocket, or are you just happy to throw away my privacy?
Pocket is small stuff. A button on the taskbar that can be removed. Or completely disabled in about:config. Surprising, but not much damage.
For me the Sync surprise was much more disappointing. They broke the feature to the extent it became unusable for me any more (unless I spend some more weekends trying to understand their poorly-documented proprietary protocol mess, which is not how I'd like to spend time).
Re: No Surprises (2009)
#13So Googles Safe Browsing will finally be opt-in?
Re: No Surprises (2009)
#14Does this mean they'll be rolling back the Pocket integration?
No it's the standard that they demand of the add-ons and not the browser, you see.
Re: No Surprises (2009)
#15So Googles Safe Browsing will finally be opt-in?
That seems like a poor example of something that should be opt-in. The people who would benefit most from it seem the least likely to opt-in to optional features.
Re: No Surprises (2009)
#16Is that a surprise in your pocket, or are you just happy to throw away my privacy?
Pocket is small stuff. A button on the taskbar that can be removed. Or completely disabled in about:config. Surprising, but not much damage. For me the Sync surprise was much more disappointing. They broke the feature to the extent it became unusable for me any more (unless I spend some more weekends trying to understand their poorly-documented proprietary protocol mess, which is not how I'd like to spend time).
Unfortunately the View Pocket List menu entry in Bookmarks menu cannot easily be removed. (It is there even with browser.pocket.enabled set to false). Fortunately for me that I don't access the Bookmarks menu too often to be annoyed by it.
Re: No Surprises (2009)
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Probably more thinking of Mozilla replacing default search with Yahoo, without asking the user.
It's stuff like this that has an indirect effect that is much more serious than the change itself. Not all that long ago there was a thread here about 'why those bloody end users don't keep their systems up-to-date'. Well, there you have it: because they never just get the fixes, they also get all kinds of other junk rammed down their throats, if such an upgrade does not break their systems entirely. And so the end-u…
You raise an extremely good point that describes my feelings lately perfectly.
How do HN folks manage the inevitable change in and monetization of popular and useful products?
I'm having serious heartburn consuming updated products (e.g. Win 10 and FireFox). It seems that the forced dichotomy is Control, Ease of use, Features within 3 years: Pick two. I had been really happy with my customized FireFox and locked down Windows 7 from the control and usefulness standpoint but FF has been taking liberties that parent notes and Windows has a "new direction" than the standalone value they provided with Win 7. Now it feels like they're yanking the rug out, and constantly evaluating the large amount of technology I rely on is tiring.
Re: No Surprises (2009)
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
The internet is a source of constant dynamic change and the flexibility to adopt new synergies is essential to maintaining best in class shared experiences.
The marketing speak is strong with this one...
I'm now one "synergy" away from a Buzzword Bingo.
Re: No Surprises (2009)
#20So Googles Safe Browsing will finally be opt-in?
That seems like a poor example of something that should be opt-in. The people who would benefit most from it seem the least likely to opt-in to optional features.
True, but I would like to know that my non-Google browser contacts Googles server every now and then. If the goal is "no surprises", then users should be made aware of this feature and allowed to opt-in or out easily.