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> They had the sense to build the city not in a desert The hubris of the people who built up the southwest United States in particular astounds me.
It's especially bothersome when their choices make it impossible for the rest of us to (e.g.) buy a toilet that actually flushes.
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> They had the sense to build the city not in a desert The hubris of the people who built up the southwest United States in particular astounds me.
It's especially bothersome when their choices make it impossible for the rest of us to (e.g.) buy a toilet that actually flushes.
Also as having grown up in the sticks in Alaska, with an electric well and significant power outs, let me just say: walking half a mile to break open some ice, draw 3.5 gallons of water and walking back is some bullshit. I love me some low flow toilets.
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Neither Los Angeles nor San Francisco is in a desert. The comment you're replying to said "California", and there is not much California population in the desert climate. For example, Palm Springs in the Sonora Desert has a population of about 50K, and Palmdale/Lancaster/Victorville in the Mojave Desert has a combined population of about 400K).
Los Angeles gets about 13 inches of annual rainfall. San Francisco gets about 20. Chicago gets about 36. New York gets nearly 50. LA and SF may not be "deserts" in some technical sense, but it'll do for practical purposes.
http://www.boomcalifornia.com/2013/10/myth-of-a-desert-metro...
http://www.kcet.org/updaily/socal_focus/commentary/los-angel...
LA is in the Mediterranean climate zone.
If you are willing to entertain the idea that not just Los Angeles, but San Francisco is in a desert -- I have no words. Have you been there?
People, typically not very well-informed about California geography and the Southwest, do sometimes lazily refer to LA as a desert. They seem to do this because they have heard other people do it. If you have lived here, you will see how evidently wrong this is. It's July and I can take my dog to a creek that has flowing water. This is not something you can do in a desert.
Have you been to an actual desert, such as the Mojave, the Sonora, or the Anza-Borrego?
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Los Angeles gets about 13 inches of annual rainfall. San Francisco gets about 20. Chicago gets about 36. New York gets nearly 50. LA and SF may not be "deserts" in some technical sense, but it'll do for practical purposes.
LA is not a desert in the sense used by climatologists. For example: http://www.boomcalifornia.com/2013/10/myth-of-a-desert-metro... http://www.kcet.org/updaily/socal_focus/commentary/los-angel... LA is in the Mediterranean climate zone. If you are willing to entertain the idea that not just Los Angeles, but San Francisco is in a desert -- I have no words. Have you been there? People, typically not very well-informed…
As I said, "not in a technical sense", but that's irrelevant to the actual point under discussion, which is that cities have been built in areas that don't have anything like the amount of natural water resources necessary to sustain them.
>For Centuries Forgive me, pure pet peeve: it's a tiny bit more than one century - the 1st reported issue is from 1906. Anyway, it's great to see an example of looking for a solution instead of penalizing people.
My first though on reading the headline was "has New York even had fire hydrants for centuries?". It seems they actually just barely have.
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Check. $200 for a low-flush unit and problem solved.
Except that you're now out of pocket an extra hundred bucks, even though you live in an area that has no water shortage, nor has any prospect of ever having a water shortage.
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Except that you're now out of pocket an extra hundred bucks, even though you live in an area that has no water shortage, nor has any prospect of ever having a water shortage.
Well that's the fault of what ever cheap-ass contractor/landlord built/provisioned the place and was probably put in place well before California had a drought possibly even before people decided Phoenix was fit for human habitation.
I've heard there's an active trade in bootleg Canadian toilets in the Pacific Northwest.
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NYC has plenty of water, brought in via aquaducts from upstate. They had the sense to build the city not in a desert.
You mean they had the good fortune that their ancestors did not land in a desert.