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Re: Microsoft rips off Plurk

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Sounds like a better role though, not necessarily pushing Microsoft products.

two months from here he will realise that the VPs expect him to know from startups why they aren't using IIS.

So Microsoft VPs want to find out why people do not accept their products. Could be a good thing, if they would then insist on improvement of the products guided by the data that the "dev evangelist" provides. You, though, make it sound like it's a bad thing. Care to explain?

Re: Microsoft rips off Plurk

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By "their culture' do you mean China, or Microsoft? I really don't think for example Google China would do this.

As a Chinese guy, I have to say that the above comment is generally correct - there is fundamentally a different awareness of the concept of IP in Asia. More frankly, this concept doesn't really exist. It's not that the culture is more tolerant of ripping others off, but rather that when it comes to creative works, it's not seen as ripping off. Being able to take, adapt, and re-release the work of others, even for-pr…

More frankly, this concept doesn't really exist.

That's generally true of the Internet tho'. So many photographers I know have had someone rip off their galleries, the usual excuse is just "I found it".

Re: Microsoft rips off Plurk

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He does have a point (one which merits better than his -4 fate). If your biggest asset is your UI, not only do you have to appreciate you have a tenuous competitive advantage but you should have a battle plan, both technical and legal, for when the theft invariably does happen. They got lucky that it was a big operation like MS with a public reputation to maintain (laugh all you like) rather than some no-name. It's e…

Did you actually read the article? They ripped off the code as well as the UI.

You're playing semantic games. js code is still UI.

Re: Microsoft rips off Plurk

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Did you actually read the article? They ripped off the code as well as the UI.

You're playing semantic games. js code is still UI.

Why, because it's client-side? Categorizing all JavaScript as UI is simply wrong.

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And yet not uncommon. We (Django) had a rather frustrating mailing-list exchange with IBM folks who wanted to build a DB2 driver for Django; they claimed their corporate policies wouldn't allow them to look at the existing Django DB backends, or anything BSD-licensed, to gather information on the API.

Wow, are you serious? What ended up as the solution?

Here's the django-dev thread:

http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thre...

Eventually they wrote an adapter; I don't have any idea how they got the API spec, since they swore up and down they couldn't look at existing code.

(and, to be honest, the initial released version of their DB2 adapter showed some serious issues which may be related to not understanding how the code was supposed to work)

Re: Microsoft rips off Plurk

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_vs._MikeRoweSoft Plurk should sue and win. If M$ could have had issues over phonetically rhyming domain name and take the kid to court, why not plurk taking microsoft into court for something serious. You just can't excuse yourself by saying someone in my company's xyz office is responsible.

The problem is that the case might have to be heard in China, whose judiciary system is not something that I can trust.

Re: Microsoft rips off Plurk

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At this point, Microsoft issued a press release and took the site down while investigating. PR: http://www.microsoft.com/Presspass/press/2009/dec09/12-14Sta...

Basically they just subcontracted the whole MSN Juku thing and nobody at MS ever had a real look into it or didn't know about Plurk?

Plurk is blocked in China, so it's not so surprising that staff at MSN China don't recognise its UI.

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two months from here he will realise that the VPs expect him to know from startups why they aren't using IIS.

So Microsoft VPs want to find out why people do not accept their products. Could be a good thing, if they would then insist on improvement of the products guided by the data that the "dev evangelist" provides. You, though, make it sound like it's a bad thing. Care to explain?

I've already started to have conversations inside Microsoft about why startups in the Silicon Valley don't want (or need) to use Microsoft products.
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