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I noticed some disturbing privacy defaults in Windows 10

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Re: I noticed some disturbing privacy defaults in Windows 10

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Post by vetinari »

x5n1 wrote: post #231
batou wrote: post #190

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Absolutely no one wanted it. No one asked for it. We were spun a load of marketing disguised as listening and attention. This turned out to be exactly what Microsoft wanted which was another aggressive move against customers both business and consumer. Despite all this the noise and confusion and dubious love for the products is shining out of the arses of every non technical news source. What did we expect? I've lef…

Now if can only do the same with Google and Android, we'd be all set. Why does Google get a get out of jail for free card in this? Android is like the spying on everything you do operating system. Your location, your voice, your pictures, your passwords, I mean fuck... There is nothing Android doesn't know about you that it doesn't share with Google and on request the US government.

> Your location, your voice, your pictures, your passwords,

However, it will ask you first about that. And it is not actually Android, it is Google Play Services. For snitching your pictures, you have to download an extra app by yourself.

If you don't like that and you don't want to say 'no' when asked, use Cyanogen without Gapps. That way, you'll get non-spying vanilla Android. (That means without Play Store too).

Re: I noticed some disturbing privacy defaults in Windows 10

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Post by _rob »

gambiter wrote: post #209
api wrote: post #195

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We had speech recognition back in the 1990s on computers less powerful than a Raspberry Pi V1. We're talking 200-400mhz 32-bit Intel boxes. So yes, the cloud dependency is very dubious. If leveraging a lot of data allows for better speech recognition, why can't your computer access a remote speech recognition data set that stores and shares the results of its machine learning algorithms rather than uploading actual a…

You realize the 'personal assistant' functionality of today is slightly more complex than just speech recognition, right? Because, it is.

Can you give me an example?

And why not have all the features that can be done locally be done locally. If it's possible for my computer to understand me entering an apportionment, why should that go to a MS sever to be stored forever?

Re: I noticed some disturbing privacy defaults in Windows 10

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Post by wambotron »

dimino wrote: post #107

I'll bet everything in my pocket that Windows 10 does not keylog every stroke and send it back to Microsoft servers for storage. It's intellectually dishonest to think that's what s going on, because it ruins the conversation about what they're actually doing.

There's a ton of fear-mongering going on in these comments. It's depressing.

Re: I noticed some disturbing privacy defaults in Windows 10

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Post by juliangregorian »

batou wrote: post #255
matthewmacleod wrote: post #242

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I appreciate what you're trying to say, but ultimately... Sucks to be you. If you don't want others to share that data, you'll have to stop interacting with them.

I've done that. They revert to traditional methods like phone calls when they want or need something. Every time. Sucks to be you if your relationships, be they business or personal, are as fragile as a volatile technology.

If you really are as charming in real life as you are online, people might indeed accede to your quaint insistence on anachronistic media, until they don't.

Personally, I require that all my so-called friends communicate with me in morse code over short wave radio. It works a treat.

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Post by Zarel »

natmaster wrote: post #198

I find it shocking how people readily accept Google's far worse policies, and yet are so concerned about an easy opt out. For instance, in Android, Google tracks with GPS accuracy your whereabouts constantly. This isn't just what IP your desktop is attached to. Furthermore, there is no prompt telling you this happens with a very easy way of undoing. In fact even if you knew about this it is very hard to find a way to…

This is completely false. For one thing, SRWare Iron is a scam:

http://www.insanitybit.com/2012/06/23/srware-iron-browser-a-...

For another thing, Chrome doesn't log every website you visit. The closest thing they do is suggest autocompletions for searches/URLs you type in the URL, which is a straightforwardly-explained checkbox in Chrome's privacy settings.

Re: I noticed some disturbing privacy defaults in Windows 10

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Post by batou »

juliangregorian wrote: post #304
batou wrote: post #255

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I've done that. They revert to traditional methods like phone calls when they want or need something. Every time. Sucks to be you if your relationships, be they business or personal, are as fragile as a volatile technology.

If you really are as charming in real life as you are online, people might indeed accede to your quaint insistence on anachronistic media, until they don't . Personally, I require that all my so-called friends communicate with me in morse code over short wave radio. It works a treat.

I was a QRP operator so that's actually quite funny.

Re: I noticed some disturbing privacy defaults in Windows 10

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Post by batou »

Zarel wrote: post #300
batou wrote: post #255

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I've done that. They revert to traditional methods like phone calls when they want or need something. Every time. Sucks to be you if your relationships, be they business or personal, are as fragile as a volatile technology.

And let me guess, they don't have your phone number memorized; they probably save your phone number in their phone's contacts list alongside your name, which is automatically backed up in the cloud in either Google Contacts or iCloud depending on what phone they use. Expecting your friends not to use cloud services seems a bit unreasonable and unenforceable. Are you really going to tell all your friends they should w…

No as that information is public.

What we talk about isn't.

Re: I noticed some disturbing privacy defaults in Windows 10

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Post by [deleted] »

pjc50 wrote: post #155
sudioStudio64 wrote: post #78

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It's insecure by a standard that you are setting. If they can demonstrate an audit log of every admin who has escalated their permission to logon to the container of your data and access it, including the files they accessed, would that be good? (Because they do that.) Again privacy-violating by your, arguably, very narrow standard. I'm sorry friend, but you are stating these things as if there's no question as to wh…

If they can demonstrate an audit log of every admin who has escalated their permission to logon to the container of your data and access it, including the files they accessed, would that be good? (Because they do that.) They are legally prevented from showing you such an audit log if a National Security Letter is involved.

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Post by pdkl95 »

vezzy-fnord wrote: post #295
api wrote: post #179

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I'm increasingly believing that for privacy to live, a necessary (but not sufficient) condition is for free to die. By free I mean free as in beer, not free as in freedom. The problem is that if everything has to be free, there can never be any money in the actual maintenance and development of the product. User-centric and privacy-respecting business models are impossible if the product is free. It's necessary but n…

There's an even bigger elephant in the room: software is a non-scarce, non-rivalrous (possibly even anti-rivalrous in that utility increases with usage) good. Per-unit software sales and most standard proprietary software business models are deadweight losses that rely on unsustainably preserving artificial scarcity. The technical community has mostly accepted that file sharing is a reality that requires rethinking b…

Programming is a trade, similar to plumbing.

Just like the typical plumber or electrician, most programming is not "new products". Even today, most programming is probably Java (formerly Cobol) internal to a business or other large organization.

There will always be a need for programmers, for much the same reason we will always need plumbers: even with standardized parts and methods, you still need someone to actually customize it to the specific task and implement it locally.

This is where Free Software comes in: we need a commons from which those implementations can be built from. Unfortunately, we still have a lot of sociopathic businesses in the market that think it would be really profitable if they make the threads on all their pipe fittings in the reverse direction at non-standard sizes with the hope of cornering the entire pipe market. In practice, of course, all they've accomplished is forcing every plumber to keep a huge set of adapters in their toolkit and waste a lot of time matching them on every job.

Re: I noticed some disturbing privacy defaults in Windows 10

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Post by tychuz »

jda0 wrote: post #71
chadzawistowski wrote: post #61

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What do start menu ads look like?

A little "Recommended App" tile underneath your "Most Used" list.

I still have no idea what you all are talking about. After fresh install, my Start looks really barren, I'd even welcome these mythical ads...

http://i.imgur.com/tdkFeiQ.png

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