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Re: Show HN: File.io – Ephemeral file sharing

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Post by tw04 »

ca98am79 wrote: post #78
mfkp wrote: post #65

> How did you get such a great domain name? From the awesome service at park.io A little disingenuous since the domain was never listed on park.io and this site was made by the same company as park.io. Makes me believe that they snatch up the best domains for themselves so people can't bid on them. I've bought multiple domains from park.io before and had a good experience, but I was always worried about this.

Thanks for using park.io and I'm glad you had a good experience. park.io doesn't just get domains from drop-catching when they expire. Sometimes we buy them from the previous owner directly. Also, not all sales go through the drop-catching/auction process, for example users can park their domains on park.io and set a "Buy it Now" price for their parked domain, so domains also sell in this way. file.io was never liste…

So I assume "park.io" posted the domain for sale and gave the market ample time to buy the domain before snatching it up for them/your selves?

You buying it before posting it is no better than you drop-catching it.

Re: Show HN: File.io – Ephemeral file sharing

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Post by saiko-chriskun »

tw04 wrote: post #81
ca98am79 wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for using park.io and I'm glad you had a good experience. park.io doesn't just get domains from drop-catching when they expire. Sometimes we buy them from the previous owner directly. Also, not all sales go through the drop-catching/auction process, for example users can park their domains on park.io and set a "Buy it Now" price for their parked domain, so domains also sell in this way. file.io was never liste…

So I assume "park.io" posted the domain for sale and gave the market ample time to buy the domain before snatching it up for them/your selves? You buying it before posting it is no better than you drop-catching it.

you're free to buy the domains yourself? he bought it from the previous owner and has every right to use it as he sees fit, and in this case actually launched a useful service in place of just sitting on it.

Re: Show HN: File.io – Ephemeral file sharing

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Post by tattler »

STRML wrote: post #62
j_s wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So encrypt client-side?

I built a service for this a few years back - it encrypts and decrypts on each side, all in JS. It's pretty quick with web workers. https://securesha.re

This is close to something I keep meaning to make.

It would be awesome if I could download the file without the password to verify that it's stored encrypted though.

Re: Show HN: File.io – Ephemeral file sharing

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Post by theoneone »

dublinben wrote: post #39
dubcanada wrote: post #25

Do you store the IP of the uploader and downloader? If you don't you're going to want to.

>If you don't you're going to want to Why?

If authorities ask you/demand with a court order "who uploaded this file" you can hand out his ip. I also believe( haven't checked his one) you must retain a copy of all files for a short period of time even if they inaccessible to end users.

Re: Show HN: File.io – Ephemeral file sharing

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Post by dublinben »

theoneone wrote: post #84
dublinben wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>If you don't you're going to want to Why?

If authorities ask you/demand with a court order "who uploaded this file" you can hand out his ip. I also believe( haven't checked his one) you must retain a copy of all files for a short period of time even if they inaccessible to end users.

You can't provide information that you don't have. Keeping no logs is the best default practice from a legal and privacy perspective.

Re: Show HN: File.io – Ephemeral file sharing

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Post by ca98am79 »

irq-1 wrote: post #35
ca98am79 wrote: post #2

I built this site and appreciate any feedback from the HN community

Nice service. You should considered a default expiration (a week?) to lighten the load, and an option for multiple downloads (?dl=3) so the first n get a copy or multiple tries if corrupted. Also, you don't keep logs but what about your cloud provider? What guarantees can you make about them, and what responsibility do programmers have to explain the risks to the public? It seems wrong to say "anonymous and secure" w…

Thanks for the helpful feedback. Yes, I think a default expiration is a good idea and will be adding this. Other have asked about the ability for multiple downloads, so I am considering this.

Re: Show HN: File.io – Ephemeral file sharing

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Post by theoneone »

dublinben wrote: post #85
theoneone wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If authorities ask you/demand with a court order "who uploaded this file" you can hand out his ip. I also believe( haven't checked his one) you must retain a copy of all files for a short period of time even if they inaccessible to end users.

You can't provide information that you don't have. Keeping no logs is the best default practice from a legal and privacy perspective.

Privacy yes, but legal? If you operate a website/ service that may be used for illegal purposes then I think you need to be able to track down illegal activities.

Re: Show HN: File.io – Ephemeral file sharing

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Post by roderickm »

mfkp wrote: post #65

> How did you get such a great domain name? From the awesome service at park.io A little disingenuous since the domain was never listed on park.io and this site was made by the same company as park.io. Makes me believe that they snatch up the best domains for themselves so people can't bid on them. I've bought multiple domains from park.io before and had a good experience, but I was always worried about this.

park.io discloses that they buy some names for their own portfolio. Whether disclosure makes it appear less disingenuous is in the eye of the beholder.

In their FAQ, park.io writes that one of the reasons an expiring name might not be listed is "because we intend to order this domain for our own portfolio. We don't do this often, but every once in a while there is a domain we want for our own collection and so we do not list it on park.io."

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