Can someone help me as i'm confused. This is free opensource code, being stored by a company who is now selling shares for profit?
Most of their revenues come from the enterprise market.
GitHub Raises $250M at $2B Valuation
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Re: GitHub Raises $250M at $2B Valuation
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Despite having a gazillion issue trackers, something halfway between the two would be welcome. GitHub issue tracking is not good enough to manage any kind of large project, JIRA is a bit of a beast. I'd prefer having an integrated JIRA any day, though I do still strongly DISLIKE JIRA. There's still opportunity for something better IMHO. (For very small teams, I find that's Trello, but Trello isn't really for large gr…
I can confirm there is an opening for something new. We use FogBugz (and pay quite a bit for the hosted version), because GitHub issues are too simplistic, and we hate JIRA. However, FogBugz has its share of problems, and I'd gladly move to something else, if only there was something better. Must-haves that many companies miss are: * flawless E-mail integration, * task numbers, * API that lets me attach code commit l…
I've been working on my own at https://getneutrino.com I built it for myself for the exact same reasons and then decided to open it up. It doesn't have e-mail integration or git/GitHub yet but both are being worked on and will probably be rolled out this weekend or next. I'll admit it's still a bit raw as it's still transitioning from "little project I built for myself" to a product.
Re: GitHub Raises $250M at $2B Valuation
#353Both this piece, and most commenters, seem to miss the point about where Github's value comes from. It's not for being a social identity for programmers, or hosting open-source libraries. Those are worthy pursuits, but from a business perspective mostly serve as marketing. Github is basically Microsoft Word for programmers, and is an essential part of their workflow. Companies that need enterprise functionality aroun…
Microsoft Word became a valuable monopoly because it was a proprietary standard. But git hosting is a commodity service. There are already a number of players doing exactly what GitHub does, for less money, and it's trivially easy to migrate a repository away from GitHub to those other providers. Something tells me that the "facebook for programmers" angle is essential to selling the dream here. The so-called "networ…
I was going to say exactly this - Word had very little competition, whereas GitHub has many equivalent competitors. I'm a fan of BitBucket - they allow free private repos, but the company as a whole offers multiple other enterprise solutions above and beyond what GitHub provides.
Re: GitHub Raises $250M at $2B Valuation
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While Jira can be clunky I don't mind using it since it's pretty much totally accessible to me as a blind developer. I can't say the same for a lot of other products my company used to use. Github is pretty good from an accessibility standpoint as well. One thing I can't figure out how to do in Github is see all forks of a repository. Is this possible to do?
To clarify/expand on what another person said, it is possible to see the forks of a repository by appending "/network" to the repository URL. (For example, https://github.com/golang/go/network. ) Curious to know how well screen-readers can parse that, if at all :) (BTW, repos with very large numbers of forks, like Rails, aren't able to render a network graph at all.)
That link doesn't work because of the dot at the end. Correct link: https://github.com/golang/go/network
Re: GitHub Raises $250M at $2B Valuation
#355Both this piece, and most commenters, seem to miss the point about where Github's value comes from. It's not for being a social identity for programmers, or hosting open-source libraries. Those are worthy pursuits, but from a business perspective mostly serve as marketing. Github is basically Microsoft Word for programmers, and is an essential part of their workflow. Companies that need enterprise functionality aroun…
Microsoft Word became a valuable monopoly because it was a proprietary standard. But git hosting is a commodity service. There are already a number of players doing exactly what GitHub does, for less money, and it's trivially easy to migrate a repository away from GitHub to those other providers. Something tells me that the "facebook for programmers" angle is essential to selling the dream here. The so-called "networ…
I see GitHub's monopoly being in the services that integrate with it. We couldn't switch from GitHub even if we wanted to, not without finding alternatives to all the integrated services we use. That's too much friction for little gain.
Re: GitHub Raises $250M at $2B Valuation
#356Both this piece, and most commenters, seem to miss the point about where Github's value comes from. It's not for being a social identity for programmers, or hosting open-source libraries. Those are worthy pursuits, but from a business perspective mostly serve as marketing. Github is basically Microsoft Word for programmers, and is an essential part of their workflow. Companies that need enterprise functionality aroun…
Microsoft Word became a valuable monopoly because it was a proprietary standard. But git hosting is a commodity service. There are already a number of players doing exactly what GitHub does, for less money, and it's trivially easy to migrate a repository away from GitHub to those other providers. Something tells me that the "facebook for programmers" angle is essential to selling the dream here. The so-called "networ…
The analogy is closer to:
Git ~ Text Editor
GitHub ~ Microsoft Word
Sure, git is a commodity service, just like text editors are a commodity product. It's trivially easy to migrate a Git repository to a different service, but quite a bit less trivial to migrate all of the issues, integrations, hooks, wikis, CI services, etc.
When you look at the big picture, there are much fewer players doing exactly what GitHub does.
Re: GitHub Raises $250M at $2B Valuation
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Microsoft Word became a valuable monopoly because it was a proprietary standard. But git hosting is a commodity service. There are already a number of players doing exactly what GitHub does, for less money, and it's trivially easy to migrate a repository away from GitHub to those other providers. Something tells me that the "facebook for programmers" angle is essential to selling the dream here. The so-called "networ…
I was going to say exactly this - Word had very little competition, whereas GitHub has many equivalent competitors. I'm a fan of BitBucket - they allow free private repos, but the company as a whole offers multiple other enterprise solutions above and beyond what GitHub provides.
Word had massive amounts of competition. WordPerfect dominated the market well before Microsoft Word, was the biggest competitor for a long time, and still remains popular in niche applications. Lotus Word Pro, WordStar, StarOffice, and countless other lesser used products.
Arguably, word processors are the one piece of software that probably has had the most competition throughout the years.
Re: GitHub Raises $250M at $2B Valuation
#358If the could nail "issues" like they have "wiki" and can add a chat product of similar quality the $2B valuation looks not just plausible but perhaps an undervaluation.
They have a kick arse API and there's a busy ecosystem around it, but I wouldn't mind seeing github write a few new client / products that supersede issues themselves. If they dogwood issues with collaborating external organisations in private perhaps they'll find the nirvana we all crave?
Re: GitHub Raises $250M at $2B Valuation
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We're working on something to split the middle at http://Clubhouse.io As easy to use as Trello for small teams, but scales up as you grow (although we probably cap out at 100-ish devs right now, not quite to Jira's level yet.) (Full disclosure: CEO/Founder)
Looks awesome - but please tell me you will have download-and-install option? Hosting solution is not acceptable to us and this could differentiate you from hundreds of others in this area.
No download and install option... yet.
We deploy multiple times a day right now. Clubhouse is built with the option of a hosted version in mind, but we'd have to get to the point where we felt that things were stable and complete enough to say "ok, let's call this 1.0 and ship it."
Re: GitHub Raises $250M at $2B Valuation
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Care to elaborate about it? I just found it accessible at https://github.com/ErisBlastar/cplusequality
The original C+= repo ( https://github.com/FeministSoftwareFoundation/C-plus-Equalit... ) was taken down by Github after twitter backlash. http://tech.slashdot.org/story/13/12/14/1618239/github-takes...
Just wanted to thank you. I never heard of the C+= saga - you made my day!