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Amazon Sign Top Gear's Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond and James May

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Re: Amazon Sign Top Gear's Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond and James May

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It'll be interesting to see how Amazon respond to the inevitable complaints when Clarkson does a "Clarkson". The BBC used to fall over themselves to apologise and give him another final warning - you'd have to assume this was discussed by both parties. Personally I hope Amazon just stay out of their way and let them get on with it.

I don't know, they stopped selling the confederate flag stuff, but they used to be renowned for selling books regardless of controversy of the content. So it could fall down either way. Both incidents the BBC have him for he was coerced into situations (singing a song he didn't want to sing because he only knew the racist version from when he grew up and didn't want to say the word, then being kept up for 24 hours, a…

> singing a song he didn't want to sing

The scripts are written by the cast & the script editor (Richard Porter).

> made to drink profusely as part of a show stunt

It's well known that Clarkson is a fan of the booze to the point where you could reasonably categorise him as a functioning alcoholic. He recently publicly announced after the death of Charlie Kennedy that he was giving up. So I'm pretty sure that no-one was making him drink..

He likes to paint himself as the last bastion of free speech, innocent victim of the facist Big Brother Corporation, and a lot of other things inbetween; but the reality is that he's just that embarrassing Uncle who you have fond memories of when he used to let you smoke his cigarettes and drive his car around the block when you were 10, but now you're all grown up, going through your contacts, deciding who to invite to your wedding; you just skip past because you just know he'd end up shitting in the font and asking anyone with a tan what weddings are like where they're from.

Re: Amazon Sign Top Gear's Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond and James May

#52

It'll be interesting to see how Amazon respond to the inevitable complaints when Clarkson does a "Clarkson". The BBC used to fall over themselves to apologise and give him another final warning - you'd have to assume this was discussed by both parties. Personally I hope Amazon just stay out of their way and let them get on with it.

If he wasn't on BBC (which as a state broadcaster has far more political sensitivity) it probably wouldn't have been so much of an issue in the UK. Most of his "controversies" would not even be news in the US. A person on a humorous show cracking a racial/ethnic joke is on TV every night. We have nothing like OFCOM where you could actually get in trouble with the government for being highly offensive either. And cele…

How do you square these claims with the public outcry over a brief glimpse of Jannet Jackson's tit? There are plenty of examples of similar controversies in the U.S. media.

Re: Amazon Sign Top Gear's Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond and James May

#54

It's a shame they went to Amazon instead of Netflix since Amazon's video apps universally suck in comparison (I'm especially looking at the Xbox 360 and Xbox One Amazon apps). Heck, you can't even watch Amazon Prime Video on your Android device without compromising the security of the device and enabling untrusted app installs.

What's wrong with Amazon Prime on the Xbox One? I use it all the time and have had less problems with it than Netflix on the Xbox One...

The android thing is annoying.

Re: Amazon Sign Top Gear's Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond and James May

#55
post #10

As much as I enjoy watching those three mess around on TV, I'm not giving tax-dodging Amazon £80 (~$125) a year for the privilege. Prime seems to have a poor UI (and from what I've read has an inferior service in the UK in terms of apps and content). I wouldn't benefit from the next day delivery because I don't order enough from them. Their (Clarkson, Hammond, May) audience will decrease wherever they ended up, but A…

Are they doing anything illegal in their "tax-dodging"? If not, why would they ever choose to pay more? I've never understood the point of vilifying companies for using "loopholes" to pay less taxes. If there was a loophole that allowed me to pay less income tax, I would absolutely take advantage of it. Why give away more of my money than I have to? If you want them to pay more, close the loophole that allows them to pay less.

Re: Amazon Sign Top Gear's Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond and James May

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post #53
post #2

This is an interesting statement by Amazon about its stance on (persistent) racial slurs.

I'm happy to see Amazon not give a toss about non-issues that keep SJWs up at night. Not that I watch the show or care for Clarkson.

I must assume you consider it a non-issue because you didn't see a clip of, e.g., the "slope" incident, which is unmistakeably a racial reference. The shot in question makes no sense otherwise. Allowing "clever" references like this continue to signal that it's A-OK to use these terms casually.

It is not a non-issue. And I suggest you would not consider it a non-issue if it were the word "nigger".

Re: Amazon Sign Top Gear's Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond and James May

#57

Hope they can also bring over the production values and the photography of BBC's TG.

While the lads are great, the cinematography, writing, crazy ideas (eg attack-helicopter race) - and actually making them happen - are what make the show IMHO. The hosts surely contribute a lot of the writing and ideas, though I don't know how much, but much less execution.

I understand the show runner also left with them.

Unfortunately, they can't copy the format of TG due to copyright (eg game-show formats are protected copyright subject matter). It's possible they'll come up with something even better, but more likely to be like Titanfall after CoD.

Re: Amazon Sign Top Gear's Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond and James May

#58
post #31

It'll be interesting to see how Amazon respond to the inevitable complaints when Clarkson does a "Clarkson". The BBC used to fall over themselves to apologise and give him another final warning - you'd have to assume this was discussed by both parties. Personally I hope Amazon just stay out of their way and let them get on with it.

I don't know, they stopped selling the confederate flag stuff, but they used to be renowned for selling books regardless of controversy of the content. So it could fall down either way. Both incidents the BBC have him for he was coerced into situations (singing a song he didn't want to sing because he only knew the racist version from when he grew up and didn't want to say the word, then being kept up for 24 hours, a…

He assaulted a co-worker. I'm sorry but he only has himself to blame.

I genuinely don't understand why people think his sacking was part of some grand BBC conspiracy. He was good for ratings, they paid him well, it was in both parties' interests to keep him around as long as possible. Remember we're talking about the most popular TV show in the world here.

Unfortunately he put them in a situation where they really had no other choice.

Re: Amazon Sign Top Gear's Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond and James May

#59
post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If he wasn't on BBC (which as a state broadcaster has far more political sensitivity) it probably wouldn't have been so much of an issue in the UK. Most of his "controversies" would not even be news in the US. A person on a humorous show cracking a racial/ethnic joke is on TV every night. We have nothing like OFCOM where you could actually get in trouble with the government for being highly offensive either. And cele…

How do you square these claims with the public outcry over a brief glimpse of Jannet Jackson's tit? There are plenty of examples of similar controversies in the U.S. media.

We're (pretty much) fine with violence, it's sexuality that makes some parts of the US go wonky and revert to a puritanical default.

Re: Amazon Sign Top Gear's Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond and James May

#60
post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If he wasn't on BBC (which as a state broadcaster has far more political sensitivity) it probably wouldn't have been so much of an issue in the UK. Most of his "controversies" would not even be news in the US. A person on a humorous show cracking a racial/ethnic joke is on TV every night. We have nothing like OFCOM where you could actually get in trouble with the government for being highly offensive either. And cele…

How do you square these claims with the public outcry over a brief glimpse of Jannet Jackson's tit? There are plenty of examples of similar controversies in the U.S. media.

I suppose it depends on the show. The Superbowl is widely considered to be a family friendly event with lots of children watching. I can see a nip slip being more of an issue with that audience.
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