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Amazon Sign Top Gear's Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond and James May

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Re: Amazon Sign Top Gear's Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond and James May

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Post by rjsw »

abalos wrote: post #9
abstractbeliefs wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's well known in the UK and in that article that he ~ambiguously~ mumbled the word "tigger" in a nursery rhyme.

One thing people have to remember about Clarkson is that he grew up in an entirely different generation. It's not an excuse, but it's plausible that the man simply messed up. In the unfortunate era he was brought up in, the word wasn't tigger. EDIT: Also, not saying he's not a total arse sometimes. Just saying that I think in this particular scenario he got kind of shafted.

Clarkson isn't that old.

Re: Amazon Sign Top Gear's Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond and James May

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Post by cmiles74 »

JohnTHaller wrote: post #8

It's a shame they went to Amazon instead of Netflix since Amazon's video apps universally suck in comparison (I'm especially looking at the Xbox 360 and Xbox One Amazon apps). Heck, you can't even watch Amazon Prime Video on your Android device without compromising the security of the device and enabling untrusted app installs.

Pretty much the only acceptable way I've found to watch is via their Fire TV Stick. I don't understand why their apps for other platforms is so bad; they are literally the last place I look before I give up.

Re: Amazon Sign Top Gear's Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond and James May

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Post by lmorris84 »

It'll be interesting to see how Amazon respond to the inevitable complaints when Clarkson does a "Clarkson". The BBC used to fall over themselves to apologise and give him another final warning - you'd have to assume this was discussed by both parties. Personally I hope Amazon just stay out of their way and let them get on with it.

Re: Amazon Sign Top Gear's Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond and James May

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Post by suvelx »

JohnTHaller wrote: post #8

It's a shame they went to Amazon instead of Netflix since Amazon's video apps universally suck in comparison (I'm especially looking at the Xbox 360 and Xbox One Amazon apps). Heck, you can't even watch Amazon Prime Video on your Android device without compromising the security of the device and enabling untrusted app installs.

Yep. I live in the UK, have a Prime subscription, yet I'm probably just going to get it off the Pirate Bay because their software is such an ass to use.

Re: Amazon Sign Top Gear's Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond and James May

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Post by nailer »

abalos wrote: post #9
abstractbeliefs wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's well known in the UK and in that article that he ~ambiguously~ mumbled the word "tigger" in a nursery rhyme.

One thing people have to remember about Clarkson is that he grew up in an entirely different generation. It's not an excuse, but it's plausible that the man simply messed up. In the unfortunate era he was brought up in, the word wasn't tigger. EDIT: Also, not saying he's not a total arse sometimes. Just saying that I think in this particular scenario he got kind of shafted.

Clarkson made an allusion to the racism in the original rhyme by mumbling something vague, and then got punished by people who didn't distinguish the difference between referring to racism and actual racism.

The 'slopes' thing was racist though.

Re: Amazon Sign Top Gear's Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond and James May

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Post by msandford »

DanBC wrote: post #18
jo909 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many comedians do you know that never make any offensive jokes? Gender, race, handicaps/health etc are very common themes in almost every comedy program I know. I won't judge on the quality of specific jokes and where exactly a bad joke ends and a racial slur begins, but in general it is an accepted part of comedy.

It's fine for people to tell offensive jokes. Is it fine for me to call Roy Chubby Brown lazy and stupid and unfunny because of his bad jokes? Is it fine for me to ask people providing me content to try harder to be funny, rather than just flinging shit and calling it a joke?

I always thought in HN land you got a certain amount of leeway to complain about how X needed to be better and it was OK. But then at some point -- because we recognize how the world actually works -- if you see that X can be better and nobody else can, the onus is on you to actually do X better and prove it.

In the business world this is a startup.

In comedy, I guess that means being a comedian.

From what I can tell it's about the same as startup-land, there's a power law distribution where a few comedians get really wealthy, a bunch of people get by, and tons of folks fail outright.

Given the very long road that folks travel to become widely known and "successful" I'd guess that the jokes they tell are in some way reflective of society's preferences.

But hey if you know better than all these folks, have at it!

Re: Amazon Sign Top Gear's Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond and James May

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Post by surge »

Now if only they'd fix their apps so A) could easily find shows they offer B) won't play a video and just shows a spinning circle if the app sits idle for 5 minutes or just finished playing another video and going to the next episode (always have to restart the app to fix it, happens on PS3/4 and Roku). I have a great experience with Netflix, YouTube, even CrunchyRoll (for my anime watching kid) and every other video platform.

I want to use their app more, I even buy seasons of shows off of it, but the persistent problems make me hesitant to buy more.

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