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Re: GitHub Raises $250M at $2B Valuation

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I very strongly prefer, as an engineer, not to use Atlassian products (Jira, Hipchat, Bitbucket, etc).

While Jira can be clunky I don't mind using it since it's pretty much totally accessible to me as a blind developer. I can't say the same for a lot of other products my company used to use. Github is pretty good from an accessibility standpoint as well. One thing I can't figure out how to do in Github is see all forks of a repository. Is this possible to do?

To clarify/expand on what another person said, it is possible to see the forks of a repository by appending "/network" to the repository URL. (For example, https://github.com/golang/go/network.) Curious to know how well screen-readers can parse that, if at all :)

(BTW, repos with very large numbers of forks, like Rails, aren't able to render a network graph at all.)

Re: GitHub Raises $250M at $2B Valuation

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The original C+= repo ( https://github.com/FeministSoftwareFoundation/C-plus-Equalit... ) was taken down by Github after twitter backlash. http://tech.slashdot.org/story/13/12/14/1618239/github-takes...

it was removed by bitbucket as well. god, this repo is reprehensive.

I don't get the outrage. In fact, I think it's a brilliant parody of post-structuralist jargon, self-contradictions and pretentious verbal mannerisms. If you take this repo as a serious attack against feminism I have to point out that as far as I can see the whole thing has no substance and offers no comments on real-life issues. Zero.

It satirizes a certain vacuous style of writing. Saying that it threatens feminism is like saying that satirizing jargon-heavy research papers threatens science. Is the jargon really all that matters?

I went to Slashdot through the link above which led me back to HN. The reactions just seem bizarre. Even if offensive to some, the readme.md is fully within the traditions of American comedy. You don't get all angry about Jeff Foxworthy's You Might be a Redneck, right? You don't proclaim that he misrepresents the rural poor and trivializes their hardships? Or do you?

Re: GitHub Raises $250M at $2B Valuation

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The most interesting thing about all these massive fund raisings is why. It is almost as if the managers of these companies think we are about to enter a period where raising funds will be impossible, revenue from servicing the startup economy will dry up, and they will need a massive war chest to survive.

Why wait to find out, when there is money on the table right now? Also, sometimes they have to take a lot of money, as later-stage investors want to control a sizable chunk of the company (in this case, 12.5%).

Well I don’t think any company has to take any money, but I agree that it might not be a decision the founders have any control over (board level decision).

Re: GitHub Raises $250M at $2B Valuation

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okay, i'll bite. My employer recently made the switch from Hipchat to Slack, and I can't really tell any difference in functionality. The only thing slack has is that it's pretty/shiny, which doesn't really make any difference to me personally. If anything, I miss being able to arrange the channels like I could in Hipchat. Also, what does Github give you over Gitlab?

My comment wasn't intended to make you bite. HipChat is playing catchup constantly with Slack (except the @here feature; Slack was behind the ball on that one). Slack's channel integrations are incredibly smooth. Message delivery is so much more reliable on Slack mobile than HipChat's app ever was (perhaps this was iOS specific?). Message management (stars, pinning, history links I can take from Slack and throw into…

>"But it'll effect my decision to work there. I've interviewed people at my previous job, and they have flat out decided not to join when they were told we weren't using Github and had no plans to move to it."

This is a bit extreme IMO. Tools should be a secondary concern for any developer. If a job is right for a person, such details should not matter.

Re: GitHub Raises $250M at $2B Valuation

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post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I very strongly prefer, as an engineer, not to use Atlassian products (Jira, Hipchat, Bitbucket, etc).

While Jira can be clunky I don't mind using it since it's pretty much totally accessible to me as a blind developer. I can't say the same for a lot of other products my company used to use. Github is pretty good from an accessibility standpoint as well. One thing I can't figure out how to do in Github is see all forks of a repository. Is this possible to do?

> One thing I can't figure out how to do in Github is see all forks of a repository. Is this possible to do?

Yes, just click on the number of forks. It takes you to:

https://github.com/golang/go/network

Members tab is a simpler enumeration of all forks.

https://github.com/golang/go/network/members

(Similarly, to see the people who have starred a repo, click on that number.)

It's not even hidden in some advanced menu, just point and click.

Re: GitHub Raises $250M at $2B Valuation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

okay, i'll bite. My employer recently made the switch from Hipchat to Slack, and I can't really tell any difference in functionality. The only thing slack has is that it's pretty/shiny, which doesn't really make any difference to me personally. If anything, I miss being able to arrange the channels like I could in Hipchat. Also, what does Github give you over Gitlab?

My employer also recently switched from Hipchat to Slack, and I'd say Slack is vastly superior. Most important for me are the notifications. Slack lets you set per-channel notification settings. With Hipchat I'd either miss messages I wanted to see or have to get constant notifications. "More granular notifications" was either the #1 or #2 highest-voted issue in their feature requests for over three years , and they'…

okay, you're right. The per channel notifications and showing notifications on logging back in are both things I really wanted in Hipchat at the time. I guess now that I'm so used to having them in Slack, I completely forgot about not having them!!

Re: GitHub Raises $250M at $2B Valuation

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Any attempt to use revenues as justification of the valuation is missing the point, also comments regarding git hosting being a commodity misses it.

The valuation imho is a bet that GitHub will be ingrained in developer's workflow and continue to occupy developer mindshare for at least the next decade. Some reasons have already been mentioned in the comments here: * Revenues - It's already the dominant player in git hosting and has better enterprise plans, * Mindshare - GitHub is not just git hosting, it's wikis, issues, gh-pages, atom, and more to come. Each of them are good products in their own right and also create a lot of value by being under the same roof. * Platform - Github is no longer a product, it's an emerging platform. There are plugins / extensions that augment the power of GitHub; zenhub.io (as someone mentioned here) - a case in point.

And one point that every comment here has missed is Github's value as a latent hiring marketplace. Unlike LinkedIn / Resumes / Referrals, a github profile is a much better signal for an employer. Punchcards, followers, projects built and contributed to build a very comprehensive visual of a developer, his coding style, tools used. As Github gets more popular, more employers will find value in this providing a reinforcing loop getting more developers to be creating profiles and maintaining them.

Re: GitHub Raises $250M at $2B Valuation

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post #239

Any attempt to use revenues as justification of the valuation is missing the point, also comments regarding git hosting being a commodity misses it. The valuation imho is a bet that GitHub will be ingrained in developer's workflow and continue to occupy developer mindshare for at least the next decade. Some reasons have already been mentioned in the comments here: * Revenues - It's already the dominant player in git…

how convenient it would be if GitHub could host the repositories you have with the press of a button. I'm betting the investors have seen the success of AWS and think GitHub could capitalize on the convenience of lumping everything together.
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