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Re: GitHub Raises $250M at $2B Valuation

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hga wrote: post #67
calcsam wrote: post #41

Both this piece, and most commenters, seem to miss the point about where Github's value comes from. It's not for being a social identity for programmers, or hosting open-source libraries. Those are worthy pursuits, but from a business perspective mostly serve as marketing. Github is basically Microsoft Word for programmers, and is an essential part of their workflow. Companies that need enterprise functionality aroun…

I'm not aware of Microsoft Word or any editor I've ever used or heard of forbidding me from using the word "retards" or any other. Heck, Gnu Emacs allows me to write proprietary software, a user freedom RMS is no doubt not entirely happy with. I require that general freedom of expression in my tools and do no tolerate vendors who engage in these sorts of damaging stunts. I suspect I'm not alone, and I note GitHub has…

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Re: GitHub Raises $250M at $2B Valuation

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Post by ams6110 »

hga wrote: post #167
samt wrote: post #158

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Yes it is highly offensive to many English speaking individuals in the US. It has historically been used as a highly derogatory term for disabled individuals.

It's certainly at minimum an insulting word, and in this context unambiguously so. In the context of, say, aerodynamics, its merely a word of art, e.g. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/aerodynamic+braking It'll be another word, perhaps in a more ambigious context, next time. Which brings up another point: I just don't want to have to worry about what will become this politically incorrect in the future when I'm…

It's a perfectly good word that should not be banned:

This patch retards the rate of retry attempts after three consecutive failures

Re: GitHub Raises $250M at $2B Valuation

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Post by bigiain »

findjashua wrote: post #139
toomuchtodo wrote: post #131

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My comment wasn't intended to make you bite. HipChat is playing catchup constantly with Slack (except the @here feature; Slack was behind the ball on that one). Slack's channel integrations are incredibly smooth. Message delivery is so much more reliable on Slack mobile than HipChat's app ever was (perhaps this was iOS specific?). Message management (stars, pinning, history links I can take from Slack and throw into…

my apologies if my tone come across as combative. Slack: 1. I agree on the part about multiple teams, but since I only use it for work, it hasn't really been much of an issue. 2. I never really had any issues w message delivery, I'm on Android though, and it seems like you're on iOS. 3. I also don't remember having any issues w integrations, do you have a specific example of something that it wasn't able to do? 4. Wh…

"Github: 1. I don't really care for Github issues to be honest. We don't use them at work, and for a lot of the open source repos, it's just a bunch of +1s with the occasional constructive comment sprinkled in somewhere."

I have a similar probably-not-well-enough-informed opinion of Github issues. Does anyone have a quick example of a (public) Github project using Github issues in an obviously useful way?

Re: GitHub Raises $250M at $2B Valuation

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Post by bsder »

jlebar wrote: post #186
silverbax88 wrote: post #164

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Did you really claim 2-factor authentication as your primary differentiation for choosing source control? Really? Not one of the actual uses of the application? BTW, GitHub does NOT play well with most CI tools. It's memory management is downright abysmal. As someone who understands the deep workings of source control apps, I hate having to constantly work through issues with devs botching their check ins. I never ha…

> Did you really claim 2-factor authentication as your primary differentiation for choosing source control? Really? As someone who used to have keys to a number of security-critical OSS projects, I would never use password-only authentication to protect write access to my repo. It's not just the chance of someone sneaking in a change and its getting shipped to users -- although that's also awful -- but it's also the…

> And if you're using a private repository and care about keeping your source code secret, then you really, really, really want 2FA.

Um, if I need this, I'm not handing my data to github. Thanks.

Re: GitHub Raises $250M at $2B Valuation

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Post by cozuya »

enahs-sf wrote: post #102
cheald wrote: post #86

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The thing that GitHub has right now is the userbase - the network effect keeps people interested in their service. The technical value they provide is pretty trivially replicable (see: GitLab, BitBucket), but you can't code up a (real) community. It's worth noting that 10 years ago, this same statement was true of Sourceforge.

I wonder what the sourceforge guys are making of this right now.

Both of them are probably pretty upset.

Re: GitHub Raises $250M at $2B Valuation

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Post by bigiain »

silverbax88 wrote: post #164
Aldo_MX wrote: post #120

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> Bitbucket is actually superior in many ways I beg to differ: 2-factor authentication[1], you can't change your credentials[2], it's not as easy to integrate with CI tools since most devs just focus in the integration with Github, and probably there are many more ways where Bitbucket is inferior in comparison with Github. [1] https://bitbucket.org/site/master/issues/5811/support-two-fa... [2] https://answers.atlassi…

Did you really claim 2-factor authentication as your primary differentiation for choosing source control? Really? Not one of the actual uses of the application? BTW, GitHub does NOT play well with most CI tools. It's memory management is downright abysmal. As someone who understands the deep workings of source control apps, I hate having to constantly work through issues with devs botching their check ins. I never ha…

Lack of two factor auth is quickly becoming a dealbreaker for me for everything. It doesn't matter _how_ good your webapp/SaaS works - if it's relying on just a password to secure my PII (or worse, my proprietary sourcecode or intellectual property) it's fundamentally broken, bordering on useless.

Re: GitHub Raises $250M at $2B Valuation

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Post by brighteyes »

huac wrote: post #176
erics32 wrote: post #163

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The original C+= repo ( https://github.com/FeministSoftwareFoundation/C-plus-Equalit... ) was taken down by Github after twitter backlash. http://tech.slashdot.org/story/13/12/14/1618239/github-takes...

it was removed by bitbucket as well. god, this repo is reprehensive.

It's satire.

edit: why the downvotes? honest question.

Re: GitHub Raises $250M at $2B Valuation

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Post by uniclaude »

kschrader wrote: post #183
mpdehaan2 wrote: post #180

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Despite having a gazillion issue trackers, something halfway between the two would be welcome. GitHub issue tracking is not good enough to manage any kind of large project, JIRA is a bit of a beast. I'd prefer having an integrated JIRA any day, though I do still strongly DISLIKE JIRA. There's still opportunity for something better IMHO. (For very small teams, I find that's Trello, but Trello isn't really for large gr…

We're working on something to split the middle at http://Clubhouse.io As easy to use as Trello for small teams, but scales up as you grow (although we probably cap out at 100-ish devs right now, not quite to Jira's level yet.) (Full disclosure: CEO/Founder)

That sounds really interesting, we're still looking for the perfect fit in this area. Github issues are inconvenient for having a nice overview, Trello is good but not perfect for the multiple small projects of our company, and JIRA is definitely overkill.

I just requested a beta invite. Glad to see other businesses built on Clojure codebases!

Re: GitHub Raises $250M at $2B Valuation

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Post by BinaryIdiot »

blazespin wrote: post #132
toomuchtodo wrote: post #121

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I very strongly prefer, as an engineer, not to use Atlassian products (Jira, Hipchat, Bitbucket, etc).

Yeah, it depends on how big your teams are. There are some perf issues on the on premise solution, but when you're dealing with dozens of teams, each about 5-6 engineers all following scrum or kanban, you really need something like Atlassian.

> you really need something like Atlassian.

While this is typically how it's been done in my experience I really don't agree. My take on JIRA is that it can literally do anything project-management wise but everything it does is cumbersome and slow.

I wish there were more alternatives that had SOME similar feature sets (certainly not all of the features; most of the JIRA ones can be interchanged with its other features) and was significantly faster to use.

Re: GitHub Raises $250M at $2B Valuation

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Post by onion2k »

ams6110 wrote: post #192
hga wrote: post #167

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It's certainly at minimum an insulting word, and in this context unambiguously so. In the context of, say, aerodynamics, its merely a word of art, e.g. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/aerodynamic+braking It'll be another word, perhaps in a more ambigious context, next time. Which brings up another point: I just don't want to have to worry about what will become this politically incorrect in the future when I'm…

It's a perfectly good word that should not be banned: This patch retards the rate of retry attempts after three consecutive failures

It wouldn't be banned in that context.
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