Show HN: File.io – Ephemeral file sharing • Hacker News Board

Re: Show HN: File.io – Ephemeral file sharing

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Post by drumdance » Thu, Jul 30, 2015, 12:13 AM UTC

kijin wrote: post #70

xt wrote: post #67

Personally I use http://filebin.net/ which has nice and simple looks and uses Drag & Drop for easy uploading. Source available at : https://github.com/espebra/filebin It is made in Flask and is licensed in AGPL. Project comes with Vagrant and Puppet-files for easy deploy!

Is drag & drop really easier than just selecting a file from a dialog box? Almost every modern file uploading service has it, but I've never really found it useful. I've always thought of it as a feature that people enable "just because they can." As a developer, it's pretty rare for me to have the folder containing the file I'd like to upload already open in an Explorer/Finder/whatever window. (I'm more likely to ha…

I love drag & drop with Trello, especially when dragging Skitch screen shots. You don't even have to save the file.

Re: Show HN: File.io – Ephemeral file sharing

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Post by ixtli » Thu, Jul 30, 2015, 12:22 AM UTC

pkulak wrote: post #57

rwallace wrote: post #55

Pastebin for binary files? By the look of things, clean and easy to use? Handy! It's probably time to start thinking about ways to monetise this to pay for the hosting costs at least. Also, have you talked to a lawyer yet? If this takes off and you keep it up long enough, inevitably you're going to get people using it for child porn, stolen credit card numbers, leaked classified documents, instructions on how to make…

Seems like a lot of the issues are mitigated by the file going away after the first download. Especially if there really are no logs or anything at that point.

I am not a lawyer™ but the creators should definitely consult one to 1) determine how much risk they are exposing themselves to and 2) determine a reasonable course of action to limit that risk exposure. The question is not on whether or not we believe something to be "legal" or "illegal" but whether or not some part of their service might draw the attention of a group large and angry enough that might try to make them prove something in front of a judge. This is the real danger to a small group of developers: the RIAA has many lawyers on retainer while the upfront cost of dealing with a lawsuit would bankrupt most individual developers.

Re: Show HN: File.io – Ephemeral file sharing

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Post by currysausage » Thu, Jul 30, 2015, 1:20 AM UTC

Don't try to share the link via Facebook though - Facebook will visit the URL and gone is the file.

Re: Show HN: File.io – Ephemeral file sharing

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Post by jszymborski » Thu, Jul 30, 2015, 1:28 AM UTC

currysausage wrote: post #73

Don't try to share the link via Facebook though - Facebook will visit the URL and gone is the file.

Not sure if OP is listening, but I had this same problem and SO had a simple solution.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/8195663/block-facebook-f...

Re: Show HN: File.io – Ephemeral file sharing

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Post by dublinben » Thu, Jul 30, 2015, 1:38 AM UTC

ErikRogneby wrote: post #63

pekk wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think that it makes sense for a new ephemeral files hosting site to signal that it accepts child porn on its servers, in a jurisdiction where child porn is completely illegal and can potentially get the creators of the site onto a sex offender list? Is that wise? Why are we punishing people for being careful about this?

CYA language on a FAQ is not prevention. I am guessing that they are not performing heuristic analysis of uploaded files against NCMEC databases.

Is the NCMEC hashset even publicly available? Last time I checked you have to "partner" with them in order to possibly get a copy.

Re: Show HN: File.io – Ephemeral file sharing

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Post by ca98am79 » Thu, Jul 30, 2015, 1:44 AM UTC

jszymborski wrote: post #74

currysausage wrote: post #73

Don't try to share the link via Facebook though - Facebook will visit the URL and gone is the file.

Not sure if OP is listening, but I had this same problem and SO had a simple solution. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/8195663/block-facebook-f...

yes, thank you - this will be fixed sometime soon

Re: Show HN: File.io – Ephemeral file sharing

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Post by coffeecheque » Thu, Jul 30, 2015, 1:49 AM UTC

It might be a bug (could be a feature?) but when I paste the link into Slack, Slack visits the link and then when a contact goes to download it, it's already been deleted.

Love the site though. Maybe it's not designed for sharing files over services like Slack.

Re: Show HN: File.io – Ephemeral file sharing

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Post by ca98am79 » Thu, Jul 30, 2015, 2:09 AM UTC

mfkp wrote: post #65

> How did you get such a great domain name? From the awesome service at park.io A little disingenuous since the domain was never listed on park.io and this site was made by the same company as park.io. Makes me believe that they snatch up the best domains for themselves so people can't bid on them. I've bought multiple domains from park.io before and had a good experience, but I was always worried about this.

Thanks for using park.io and I'm glad you had a good experience.

park.io doesn't just get domains from drop-catching when they expire. Sometimes we buy them from the previous owner directly. Also, not all sales go through the drop-catching/auction process, for example users can park their domains on park.io and set a "Buy it Now" price for their parked domain, so domains also sell in this way.

file.io was never listed because it never expired/dropped or went to auction. We bought it directly from the previous owner and it was parked on park.io. I have now used it for the service posted here. What you quoted above was said to advertise park.io, and I apologize if it is misleading.

Re: Show HN: File.io – Ephemeral file sharing

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Post by ca98am79 » Thu, Jul 30, 2015, 2:14 AM UTC

xt wrote: post #67

Personally I use http://filebin.net/ which has nice and simple looks and uses Drag & Drop for easy uploading. Source available at : https://github.com/espebra/filebin It is made in Flask and is licensed in AGPL. Project comes with Vagrant and Puppet-files for easy deploy!

Ha - have you tried dragging a file into the "upload" button on file.io? It works!

Re: Show HN: File.io – Ephemeral file sharing

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Post by gneustaetter » Thu, Jul 30, 2015, 4:38 AM UTC

currysausage wrote: post #73

Don't try to share the link via Facebook though - Facebook will visit the URL and gone is the file.

Facebook is one, Slack (mentioned by someone else) is another, Yahoo Mail, Microsoft...

Does anyone know of a listing of these bots that attempt to preview links? From what I've seen, these bots tend to ignore robots.txt since they are not crawlers, so seemingly need to be handled one by one.