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Nóirín Plunkett has died

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Re: Nóirín Plunkett has died

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post #25

According to their Twitter bio, Nóirín prefers to be referred to in the singular "they". Please respect their identity, HN.

Are you sure that doesn't just refer to a preference for using 'they/them' as opposed to 'him' when it's a generic singular pronoun? People who knew her are using "her": http://drbacchus.com/festina-lente/

Yes, quite sure. Source: Friends with people who knew them IRL.

Re: Nóirín Plunkett has died

#33
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. The appeal (Court of Appeals Docket #: 14-35576) and the district court case (Docket #:3:14-cv-00146) are both accurately categorized as huge messes. The allegation that Plunkett actually sent the "threat" flowers to herself (allegedly backed up by the credit card data and order history from the merchant) is noteworthy for the utter wildness involved. But it looks like nothing has happened recently in the cases…

It hardly matters now. The details of these cases and the private lives of the people involved are really none of our business, and scrutinizing them will not fix anything for anybody. Let us please mourn the loss of a person beloved by many.

I think it still matters, sadly. The whole sordid affair has taken from a language community a developer who did much good, and who is as of yet unable to return because the question of his guilt, if any, is unresolved. The end of this case, if it ever has one, might possibly see her claims validated, or it might possibly enable the return of a valued talent.

I do not assume to know which it might be, but the chance that it might be the latter makes me think that the question still matters, since as of yet, that developer is still assumed guilty without there ever having been a trial.

This does not mean that i do not have nothing but the utmost sympathy for all those hurt by her passing. I merely think it does not merit ignoring the possibly undeserved pain of another.

Re: Nóirín Plunkett has died

#35
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. The appeal (Court of Appeals Docket #: 14-35576) and the district court case (Docket #:3:14-cv-00146) are both accurately categorized as huge messes. The allegation that Plunkett actually sent the "threat" flowers to herself (allegedly backed up by the credit card data and order history from the merchant) is noteworthy for the utter wildness involved. But it looks like nothing has happened recently in the cases…

It hardly matters now. The details of these cases and the private lives of the people involved are really none of our business, and scrutinizing them will not fix anything for anybody. Let us please mourn the loss of a person beloved by many.

Well said.

Re: Nóirín Plunkett has died

#36
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you sure that doesn't just refer to a preference for using 'they/them' as opposed to 'him' when it's a generic singular pronoun? People who knew her are using "her": http://drbacchus.com/festina-lente/

It's unlikely that they meant "preferred pronoun" to be about a singular person generally, since it commonly refers to preferences about oneself. People often use pronouns other than the ones someone prefers for a variety of reasons: sometimes the preferred pronoun is new, sometimes people forget, sometimes people don't respect that person's preferred pronoun.

> It's unlikely that they meant "preferred pronoun" to be about a singular person generally, since it commonly refers to preferences about oneself.

Without more context, even in that case, it could be either 2nd or 3rd person. Queen Elizabeth, for instance, might put her preferred pronoun as 'we', but you'd still write about her.

In any event, very sad.

Re: Nóirín Plunkett has died

#37
post #22

Tthis is a devastating loss for all involved. Nóirín was active in Open Source, but something lesser known is that she was a founding director of Digital Rights Ireland; who recently succeeded in a legal challenge against European Data retention. Nóirín was also a life-long volunteer Medic with St. John's ambulance in Ireland: http://www.stjohn.ie . I'm certain her family would appreciate any condolences or donations…

A devastating loss indeed. Has cause of death been released? She was so young. EDIT: Surprised by the downvotes. I'm leaving it, regardless. The question does not imply any lack of respect for the deceased. Those who think it does are wrong.

It doesn't but if they haven't been released then seeking them is untimely morbid curiosity.

Re: Nóirín Plunkett has died

#38
post #24

According to their Twitter bio, Nóirín prefers to be referred to in the singular "they". Please respect their identity, HN.

People wouldn't know unless they looked up their twitter page. People here are using "her" because the article uses "her." https://twitter.com/noirinp

now they do!

Re: Nóirín Plunkett has died

#39
This is sad for us all. Noirin was a lovely person, smart and motivated, dedicated to open source for many years, part of so many communities. I will miss them from geekfeminism and from all our open source and feminist activist circles.

Re: Nóirín Plunkett has died

#40

Tthis is a devastating loss for all involved. Nóirín was active in Open Source, but something lesser known is that she was a founding director of Digital Rights Ireland; who recently succeeded in a legal challenge against European Data retention. Nóirín was also a life-long volunteer Medic with St. John's ambulance in Ireland: http://www.stjohn.ie . I'm certain her family would appreciate any condolences or donations…

Thank you for mentioning Noirin's work with digital rights and other organizations.

I didn't know about their work as a medic. Thank you also for mentioning their family's thoughts.

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