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Brazil Is An Alternate Video Game Universe Where Sega Beat Nintendo

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Re: Brazil Is An Alternate Video Game Universe Where Sega Beat Nintendo

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the pirated cartridges didn't have a persistent writable memory Wait so you had to beat every game in a single sitting?

Surprisingly few Genesis games had any kind of save game feature - off the top of my head, there was Sonic 3, RPGs (which were few and far between), and...that's about it?

Basically, yeah. A few sports games did as well, like some of the NHL Hockey games starting with NHL '95 I believe. (There was a "play a whole season" mode...)

Re: Brazil Is An Alternate Video Game Universe Where Sega Beat Nintendo

#52
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually Nintendo consoles were manufactured in Brazil by Gradiente, through a company called Playtronic. Gradiente's plant was part of the Free Economic Zone of Manaus, an industrial hub on the heart of the Amazon rainforest. This plant was said to be Nintendo's only plant outside Japan, though I never saw a reliable source confirming this.

It seems NES was made by multiple manufacturers in Brazil: http://www.atarihq.com/tsr/nes/brazil/brazil.html

Nintendo official manufacturer was Gradiente, but both NES and SNES had a crazy amount of non-licensed clones, and some clone manufacturers still exist (yes, you can buy a new NES and SNES in Brazil, along with new pirated cartridges)

Re: Brazil Is An Alternate Video Game Universe Where Sega Beat Nintendo

#53
post #24

So if they are still selling 150k units monthly and TechToy isn't making them anymore- where is this stock coming from? After re-reading this paragraph: "But with Sega having not built a new console in more than 15 years, Tectoy has shifted its strategy a bit. Instead of simply making video games, it now makes DVD players, Android tablets, and even baby monitors. They may not have Microsoft or Nintendo in their corne…

TecToy actually still manufacture Sega consoles, they sell new MasterSystem, new Mega Drive, and has a product named "MDPlay" that is a portable Mega Drive (actually it is seemly some arm console with a Mega Drive emulator, it runs games better than their real Mega Drive that use crappy cheap chips, and people found out you can hack it to put any Genesis rom you want and it will run, Tec Toy briefly yanked it out of the market when that information started to spread on Orkut)

Re: Brazil Is An Alternate Video Game Universe Where Sega Beat Nintendo

#54
Brazillian here:

The article is VERY wrong about something: When TecToy started to dominate the market, the import taxes for videogames were not crazy high, this came later (because of lobbying by the biggest local videogame manufacturer, of course I can't tell you who, but I am sure you can guess).

Re: Brazil Is An Alternate Video Game Universe Where Sega Beat Nintendo

#55
Brazillian here:

The article is VERY wrong about something: When TecToy started to dominate the market, the import taxes for videogames were not crazy high, this came later (because of lobbying by the biggest local videogame manufacturer, of course I can't tell you who, but I am sure you can guess).

Re: Brazil Is An Alternate Video Game Universe Where Sega Beat Nintendo

#56
Brazillian here:

The article is VERY wrong about something: When TecToy started to dominate the market, the import taxes for videogames were not crazy high, this came later (because of lobbying by the biggest local videogame manufacturer, of course I can't tell you who, but I am sure you can guess).

Re: Brazil Is An Alternate Video Game Universe Where Sega Beat Nintendo

#57

I'm pretty sure the Sega Genesis also beat the SNES by a large margin here in Argentina too. At least i grew up with a Genesis and knew a lot of people who had one, while i only knew of one person who owned a SNES[1]. One of the possible reasons for this is that there were cheap pirated Genesis games available[2], which, i think , SNES games were much more expensive, probably not pirated. [1]: The graphics and fluidi…

> the pirated cartridges didn't have a persistent writable memory Wait so you had to beat every game in a single sitting?

IIRC it was the same with many NES games, e.g. Super Mario Bros.

Re: Brazil Is An Alternate Video Game Universe Where Sega Beat Nintendo

#58
I'm astonished no one talked about MSX (which architecture is virtually the same as the Master System).

MSX was a 8-bit computer launched in 1985 that had a great user base (selling 300k units on launch). Its open architecture which originated in Microsoft Japan and ASCII Corp. It had great success also in Europe, Japan, South Korea and others, just like Master System.

This gave companies like Konami, SEGA, Namco, Activision, Taito, ASCII and others a great incentive to develop its famous games for this platform which became predominantly gaming oriented, most units coming already with bundled cartridges and game controllers, particularly MSX Gradiente 1.0.

To port MSX games to Master System was very trivial, given the similarities between both platforms, as follows: Zilog Z80 processor, at 4Mhz, 64kb RAM, 8kb ROM, the only big difference being the video chip.

There are plenty of resources on the Internet and dozens of emulators available and being maintaned. One of the most interesting projects is the recent Alan Cox's Fuzix OS which goal is to "provide a complete System V experience, without the bloat" (https://github.com/EtchedPixels/FUZIX).

Re: Brazil Is An Alternate Video Game Universe Where Sega Beat Nintendo

#59

The reason is that Sega had a local partner (Tec Toy) that understood the market and manufactured the consoles in Brazil. SNES, on the other hand, where all imported, and importing anything into Brazil has always been hard (bureaucratic and expensive). When it first launched, your only chance of getting one was having a parent bring one from abroad.

Nitpick: you probably mean "relative" ("parente"), instead of "parent" ("mãe/pai").

Re: Brazil Is An Alternate Video Game Universe Where Sega Beat Nintendo

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post #52
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems NES was made by multiple manufacturers in Brazil: http://www.atarihq.com/tsr/nes/brazil/brazil.html

Nintendo official manufacturer was Gradiente, but both NES and SNES had a crazy amount of non-licensed clones, and some clone manufacturers still exist (yes, you can buy a new NES and SNES in Brazil, along with new pirated cartridges)

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