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Humans are underrated

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Re: Humans are underrated

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What happens when we create a "computer" that doesn't have to be sentient but is good enough to do the following things - Manage a company. - Complete tasks that have value. - Follow all laws. This would be a corporate entity sort of like the automated bitcoin entities but instead it would be a corporate entity that is dependant on the following. - Can it power itself - Will its check clear for the next month since i…

Will it be able to conceptualise what tasks it cannot do and hire others to do them? And if it can conceptualise, could it not over time teach itself, or learn from others?

Re: Humans are underrated

#32

The article touches on the major areas: - Jobs where we need someone to be responsible. You may have fancy diagnostic computers and automated scalpels, but you are going to want a doctor somewhere. A NLP algo might be faster, more accurate, and better at recalling old cases than a judge, but you're not going to be satisfied in a society where you open a website to find out whether you're going to jail. - Jobs where i…

Paradoxically, they say we want people because they're accountable. At the same time the show that parole judges are consistently making wrong decisions. But they're presumably not being held accountable. Sure we feel nice imagining there's accountability, but in some professions it's only an illusion. The same goes for doctors in some countries. They can get away with carelessly killing a patient. There isn't real a…

Ideas are easy. Reality is hard. Doctors and pilots are often too stressed out to perform properly, if you are working 20 hour days you're probably out of it at hour 16. Careless mistakes often happen because people are expected to be machines. Humans were not made to do any of this. We're apes that have in a few thousands years decided we rather be machines. Not really decided, more like been coerced into being machines. And we don't know how to shut the system which tells us these things, which are lies, off. Just because you can do something, doesn't mean that you should. Human beings don't understand this concept. Just because you can do something, and someone wants you to, you absolutely should is the current human way of looking at the world.

Re: Humans are underrated

#33
So, I didn't read the full article yet. However, the bit about Southwest really surprised me. Apparently, it's not acceptable to be an introvert if you work there. If you're not 100% about talking and interacting with everyone you meet in the hallway, you "don't fit in with their culture." Southwest: Introverts need not apply. Really?

Re: Humans are underrated

#34

The article touches on the major areas: - Jobs where we need someone to be responsible. You may have fancy diagnostic computers and automated scalpels, but you are going to want a doctor somewhere. A NLP algo might be faster, more accurate, and better at recalling old cases than a judge, but you're not going to be satisfied in a society where you open a website to find out whether you're going to jail. - Jobs where i…

> responsible

That part is kind of weird to me. I understand you want someone to be "responsible", but what do you expect the response to be? This doctor failed to deliver, let's fire himher. What follows? You get a better doctor, hopefully. Wouldn't it be better to have an algorithm that can be improved when it fails, so you don't have to train a whole new doctor to replace the bad one? Plus, you can have every single robot doctor be exactly as good at everything. No more "you need to find the best surgeon for X". You can have as many best surgeons as you can economically build.

The responsibility would fall on the robot's designers to improve their software, so it doesn't make the mistake in question. And you will be able to assure people that no doctor will ever make that mistake ever again. Imagining that all these robots are linked, or at least synchronise every couple of days, they would learn a lot faster than a human.

Re: Humans are underrated

#35
Over one of the illustrative photos in this article you can see how US Army officer is communicating with elder in Afghanistan, but he did not care to leave his army boots before entering the pleasant clean carpet for conversation. Robot would never do anything so obscene.

Re: Humans are underrated

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The article touches on the major areas: - Jobs where we need someone to be responsible. You may have fancy diagnostic computers and automated scalpels, but you are going to want a doctor somewhere. A NLP algo might be faster, more accurate, and better at recalling old cases than a judge, but you're not going to be satisfied in a society where you open a website to find out whether you're going to jail. - Jobs where i…

If the stats were significantly better, I'd take the completely robotic "doctor" any day. Why would I want someone to be able to override what is statistically the most accurate decision? It's not like they'd be negligent if they followed the computer's decision, and if they didn't, being able to sue them doesn't make up for the fact that I could have been better treated. The article mentions we'd prefer to have a do…

At this point, I would welcome a completely robotic doctor.

Could you imagine, a Computer Doctor says, "I have throughly scanned every study, ever produced on SSRI's, and I don't want to make your life more difficult by a placebo response? I've made a calculated decision, and decided you might benefit from this off label drug. Try this drug for a few days? If it doesn't work, or you are skeptical of my recommendation; I have a Medical Doctors waiting for you at this hospital. Here are their resumes, work history, and patient evaluations. Just bring your ID. Money is not necessary.(Your taxes paid for this service.) Have a great day!"

Computer, "Your pain is real. Pick up your prescription for pain pills at the pharmacy of your choice. I will only need to see you once a year. If my database, shows any signs of abuse; I will direct you to a drug rehab facility." No ass kissing! No needless office visists(visits to make money?). No stereotyping?

In reality, I'm not for replcing doctors with computers; just the financial game some doctors have abused in order to become wealthy? I am definetly tired of office visits more than once a year for patients whom illness is stabilized.

Re: Humans are underrated

#37

The article touches on the major areas: - Jobs where we need someone to be responsible. You may have fancy diagnostic computers and automated scalpels, but you are going to want a doctor somewhere. A NLP algo might be faster, more accurate, and better at recalling old cases than a judge, but you're not going to be satisfied in a society where you open a website to find out whether you're going to jail. - Jobs where i…

You're thinking about robots playing football, and laughing about how ridiculous it is to picture that, but there are indirect ways automation will first compete with the sport-watching industry; in fact, it already is.

Every time someone chooses to play a video game, or chat on Hacker News, or use any other new form of entertainment when a generation ago the best available option was to watch a traditional sporting event, you've got technology outcompeting the sport-televising industry.

And sometimes it's direct competition -- e.g., watching people play video games on Twitch or YouTube. Oh, and sometimes it isn't people who are doing the playing. Those are, in fact, some of the most interesting videos to watch.

Re: Humans are underrated

#38
I've been a researcher in the field of human-robot interaction for a while, and I'm not too sure this article's claims will remain true in the future.

There is significant interest in robots and computers achieving social competencies including tasks like storytelling, empathetic interactions, creative collaboration, and even traditional psychotherapy.

The surprising part is that humans are (at least for now) generally very accepting of and engaged with the robots/AI performing these tasks. Interestingly of the hundreds of people I've personally worked with in these types of studies, only a couple have ever viewed the technology as "a tool" or "non-social agent".

Maybe people won't accept these kinds of systems once widespread, but for now there is significant interest in developing them. For a small example, just scan the titles of this year's HRI conference [1].

[1] http://humanrobotinteraction.org/2015/program-2/proceedings-...

Re: Humans are underrated

#39

The article touches on the major areas: - Jobs where we need someone to be responsible. You may have fancy diagnostic computers and automated scalpels, but you are going to want a doctor somewhere. A NLP algo might be faster, more accurate, and better at recalling old cases than a judge, but you're not going to be satisfied in a society where you open a website to find out whether you're going to jail. - Jobs where i…

> The oldest profession is not going to be replaced with robots until those robots are mistakable for humans It already has. It's the internet. Sex crimes go down when internet access goes up. It hasn't 'replaced' it 100% but that's the point with a lot of this stuff it is slowly reducing jobs without creating new ones. I really don't think it'd be impossible to create a machine that cuts hair. Or making coloring hai…

A lot of people are not going to the hair salon just have their hair cut. Having a chat is just as big a deal for many people.
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