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The Battle for Wesnoth needs help

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Re: The Battle for Wesnoth needs help

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Post by Sir_Cmpwn »

hluska wrote: post #119
Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've only made one top level comment on this article. I'm not trying to convince this guy to contribute, I'm trying to find out why he doesn't. Can no one just take me at my word? Yeesh.

That top level and this one (which is in response to someone who answered your question) are both rather combative. If I wanted to create dialogue, I wouldn't attack answers as rude. "I'm not interested in that kind of work" is a fair answer, but it seems pretty rude to dismiss it as an ugly hacky legacy code base without reviewing it first. Like I said, I wanted to disengage but I see this kind of attitude repeat it…

What is up with so much of the software community getting involved in meta discussion about how everything doesn't suit their perfect little bubble lately? So what, some people are going to be abrasive. Being an adult means doing what you want in the face of that.

Re: The Battle for Wesnoth needs help

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Post by Sir_Cmpwn »

dang wrote: post #118
Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Click profile -> follow link to website -> click "code" His Github username is also the same as his Hacker News username. Chill out.

It's not really ok to bring someone's personal details into a thread and ask them to account for their choices. It's good that you were polite about it, and curiosity is a good intention, not an attack. Still, this is a questionable thing to do, so I don't think you get to respond rudely ("Chill out") when questioned about it, or react like what you did is normal; it's not.

This is such an inconsequential thing to be wasting characters on. Think for a moment about whether or not any of this matters in the slightest. Will you ever think about this event again? As a culture we need to quit coddling ourselves and let trivial things remain trivial. I'm sick of this crap, cut it out.

Re: The Battle for Wesnoth needs help

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Post by hluska »

Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #121
hluska wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That top level and this one (which is in response to someone who answered your question) are both rather combative. If I wanted to create dialogue, I wouldn't attack answers as rude. "I'm not interested in that kind of work" is a fair answer, but it seems pretty rude to dismiss it as an ugly hacky legacy code base without reviewing it first. Like I said, I wanted to disengage but I see this kind of attitude repeat it…

What is up with so much of the software community getting involved in meta discussion about how everything doesn't suit their perfect little bubble lately? So what, some people are going to be abrasive. Being an adult means doing what you want in the face of that.

Incidentally, I have a history of starting activist organizations and have a nearly two decade long record of attracting volunteers.

Based on my experience, the following things do not work:

A) Accessing someone's personal details with the intention of asking them why they will contribute to one cause but not another.

B) Asking an open-ended question then attacking answers that do not align with yours.

If you are burned out or just need to vent, email me and we can talk about this. I've been burned out from managing/recruiting volunteers and I likely understand the feeling as well as anyone. Use me if I can be of any assistance.

Re: The Battle for Wesnoth needs help

#124

Post by dang »

Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #122
dang wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not really ok to bring someone's personal details into a thread and ask them to account for their choices. It's good that you were polite about it, and curiosity is a good intention, not an attack. Still, this is a questionable thing to do, so I don't think you get to respond rudely ("Chill out") when questioned about it, or react like what you did is normal; it's not.

This is such an inconsequential thing to be wasting characters on. Think for a moment about whether or not any of this matters in the slightest. Will you ever think about this event again? As a culture we need to quit coddling ourselves and let trivial things remain trivial. I'm sick of this crap, cut it out.

This hasn't to do with culture or coddling, but with preserving HN as a place for civil discourse. Arguably nothing on an internet forum rises above trivial or "matters in the slightest", but that doesn't mean you get to violate the rules, which you're doing increasingly. Please stop.

We've detached this subthread from its original parent (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9946787) and marked it off topic.

Re: The Battle for Wesnoth needs help

#125

Post by hluska »

ectoplasm wrote: post #117
hluska wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't the issue that they don't have enough developer hours to stabilize everything?

That was one of my questions. If that's the issue, then why consider moving to OpenGL and SDL 2?

Now I understand!! That is a heck of a good question ...

Re: The Battle for Wesnoth needs help

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Post by simoncion »

a3n wrote: post #87

$ aptitude search wesnoth p wesnoth - fantasy turn-based strategy game - complete s $ aptitude show wesnoth Package: wesnoth State: not installed Version: 1:1.10.7-1ubuntu0.14.04.1 Priority: extra Section: universe/games Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers Architecture: all Uncompressed Size: 21.5 k Depends: wesnoth-1.10 (>= 1:1.10.7-1ubuntu0.14.04.1), wesnoth-1.10-data (= 1:1.10.7-1ubuntu0.14.04.1) Description: fantasy tu…

I'm confused. Why did you post this?

Re: The Battle for Wesnoth needs help

#128

Post by simoncion »

irascible wrote: post #58
mattmanser wrote: post #35

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Seriously, please drop it. Javascript is not used to code games much, C++ is. Javascript is pretty awful performance wise. Also, porting a whole code base to another language at this stage in the game is such a colossal task. Are you even a developer? I'm not sure you realise how infeasible what you're suggesting is.

emscripten would like to have a word with you. Also, Javascript is one of the most heavily optimized dynamic languages in existence, and has orders of magnitude more code and programmers using/written in it, than java, scala, ruby, lua, etc. Rewriting any game in javascript is imho a great idea. (I am a C/C++ game developer with ~25 years of experience.)

> Rewriting any game in javascript is imho a great idea.

How do you deal with the fact that the only native numeric type is a 64bit float? Space Engineers currently uses floats as the basis for their world coordinate system. Things get really bumpy when you get far away from [0,0,0].

Re: The Battle for Wesnoth needs help

#129

Post by johnchristopher »

brownbat wrote: post #75
johnchristopher wrote: post #10

I am trying to download the latest release (1.12.4a) but I am caught in a never ending loop http://sourceforge.net/projects/wesnoth/files/ . Edit: okay, sourceforge is broken for me for any download, no matter the browser. Let's consider that my sourceforge rant of the week.

Was trying to diagnose this for KeePass last night... Between this and the adware scandal, it's like someone slammed the door on an era. What's the download service everyone's going to move to that won't have these problems? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/03/sourceforge_to_offer...

I wished something like distributed git for the masses or torrent distribution would replace services that are a single point a failure such as sourceforge or self-hosting.

Maybe even some kind of `Dropbox distributing' ?

Maybe Mega and other file hosting and sharing services are up to the job but most have a very suspicious kind of aura. I remember chasing the web after some rapidshare hosted android rom (they still do that btw) and it's a pain to deal with.

But that's just a technological POV, I don't know what kind of entity should/could distribute apps. FOSSHUB ?

Re: The Battle for Wesnoth needs help

#130

Post by a3n »

simoncion wrote: post #127
a3n wrote: post #87

$ aptitude search wesnoth p wesnoth - fantasy turn-based strategy game - complete s $ aptitude show wesnoth Package: wesnoth State: not installed Version: 1:1.10.7-1ubuntu0.14.04.1 Priority: extra Section: universe/games Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers Architecture: all Uncompressed Size: 21.5 k Depends: wesnoth-1.10 (>= 1:1.10.7-1ubuntu0.14.04.1), wesnoth-1.10-data (= 1:1.10.7-1ubuntu0.14.04.1) Description: fantasy tu…

I'm confused. Why did you post this?

Not familiar with the game, was delighted to see that it's in the repository.
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