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I'm sure the remarkable similarity to the www.spotify.com/uk homepage is just a lucky coincidence: http://imgur.com/zPfdFX8
Huh, even the same green - #2ebd59
I've lost all hope in the KDE project, they simply don't understand UI / UX design.
I think the KDE Visual Design Group is doing a great job and that Breeze and Plasma 5 look great.
I'm hopeful that Visual Design Group will have polished the UI/UX even better for the phone form factor, by the time the distribution becomes stable.
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>Both Android and iOS are horrible when it comes to easy of use and know what you are doing in my opinion. I'm going to disagree with you there. I've seen toddlers use the iPad. My 60 year old aunt who never 'got' Windows (even simple things like managing application windows, or figuring out where files go after being downloaded), figured out iPad in about a day.
I've seen toddlers use standard WIMP desktops, as well (I used to be one). It's not like they will be familiar with much else at that age, anyway. They'll learn whatever they have access to. Same goes for elderly people with no previous computer experience. They have no prior familiarity, so they'll learn whatever is given. Of course they'll have natural preferences for one UI style over another, but many of them use…
So much negativity in this thread. Where's your hacker spirit? It might not yet be as feature-rich or polished as Android or iOS, but this is a very hacker-friendly project! I for one am really excited about this. I wrote about why on reddit[1]. Keep up the good work devs! [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3ejo62/plasma_mobile...
We should always support open/libre projects, as they makes us all richer, even if you dont directly use (or like) them
Cant wait to have a REAL linux in my pocket
"Plasma Phone OS (or simply Plasma Phone) is a complete software stack for mobile devices and includes the following libre technologies:
Plasma Mobile (a Plasma-based shell), KWIN/KWayland, Voicecall, Ofono, RIL, OHM, Telepathy"
Aside from Voicecall, I have no idea what these are or why they would be desirable in a phone.
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Hard to say, it's an instinctive feeling, but let's say that it's a culture of bloat. "Should we do this or that? I don't know, let's make it an option in the settings!" Also, they seem to lack design taste.
> Hard to say, it's an instinctive feeling, but let's say that it's a culture of bloat. So, in the end, you're just a troll. You have no facts, no knowledge, no reference but just your "feelings" about "bloat"; and you keep spitting on KDE's work. I'm quite sure you've not used KDE since a long time.
UX is all about feelings and intuition by the way. Designing user interfaces is mostly trying to make users feel good while they're using it.
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Slowly compared to working on a new project from scratch. You can't change the deep, fundumantal things in a big project easily.
Great, so please show us your work on a project from scratch. You seem so good at criticizing and explaining that you'd do better. Please show us!
Is it supposed to be obvious what these components are? "What is a plasma phone?" "Plasma Phone OS (or simply Plasma Phone) is a complete software stack for mobile devices and includes the following libre technologies: Plasma Mobile (a Plasma-based shell), KWIN/KWayland, Voicecall, Ofono, RIL, OHM, Telepathy" Aside from Voicecall, I have no idea what these are or why they would be desirable in a phone.
Plasma is the KDE desktop shell. It recently released Version 5, which is very pretty and a lot of people like it. This is a mobile version of it, which I guess is similar to what the Plasma Active / Plasma Netbook projects were - reskins of the shell for smaller screens.
KWin is the KDE window manager. It recently got Wayland support, which is the next generation display protocol of the Linux desktop. Gnome also supports it now, so it will be replacing the 3 decade old Xorg server which is a security nightmare and major impediment to getting graphical GNU/Linux on more devices.
Ofono is a free software telephony library, so that you don't have to reinvent the wheel to support phone calls on phones. Its part of why Android distributions are so different from Linux ones - each vendor provides the full telephony stack guts, and while Android provides call APIs pretty much every system component in the phone is a binary blob shipped on the stock ROM images that developers need to copy off to ship a custom ROM. Which is why you download one Ubuntu for x86_64 but there are dozens of Cyanogenmod images for all the devices they support.
Telepathy is a messaging framework used by Jolla, Gnome, and KDE. It supports a wide variety of protocols, from XMPP to SIP to libpurple (which means yahoo messenger / aim / msm support amongst others) and newer messaging providers like telegram or tox. You basically import the library and you can provide one UI to dozens of messaging / file transfer / voice or video call services.
Coming up short on what RIL or OHM are abbreviations for in this context, though.
Its basically a tech listing, mostly to say "this uses the stuff you already do rather than reinventing the wheel".
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In the end, it is a community effort. It needs people from the community to contribute. If you think you can do something better, I really encourage you to do so.
UI design - how would someone with strong views (and experience!) on gestures and UI features but with little coding experience get involved? Just put some mocks somewhere and post them to where the UI team meet? Edit: In fact, where do the people interested in UI design actually meet and make their sausages in KDE? I can't seem to find a central place similar to http://design.canonical.com/ There is this gap between…
And the UIs for all this stuff are going to be done in QML, and if you can do HTML and CSS QML is much easier and more intuitive. It puts all the animations, gestures, etc in the QML files and they have a visual designer in QtQuick so you don't actually need to write code at all if you don't want to.
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>Let's be honest, even if they did have a talented team of designers nobody would use this. Why?
Because it has very few advantages over it's competitors and tons of drawbacks.
What drawbacks, again?