Tips:
- Add narration
- Keep the video under 3 minutes
- Use an attractive pair of hands in the demo
- Stick to high level features
The most important suggestion is adding narration. I had no clue why I was being shown some of these apps.
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Tips:
- Add narration
- Keep the video under 3 minutes
- Use an attractive pair of hands in the demo
- Stick to high level features
The most important suggestion is adding narration. I had no clue why I was being shown some of these apps.
No reason for the crowd here to be so cynical, clearly they do have designers. For those holding the Apple flag, just compare the UI differences from Pixelmator and Mail.App to see there are many inconsistencies and that is fine, because different apps do different things.
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FWIW, this is very early and not representative of where we want the UI to be. A lot of our effort so far has gone into e.g. getting our Wayland story sorted out (we knew we wanted to be Wayland from day 1 on the phone, and do it properly to where every line of code we write also gets Plasma Desktop closer to being on Wayland) and getting all our service infrastructure ducks in a row on a phone device. Our community…
I'd actually disagree - this is a problem that KDE has in general. KDE has a focus on features and customisation but chronically lacks in the UI/UX department, whereas GNOME has a focus on UI/UX but is obsessed with one-size-fits-all and is actually going backwards with options, and ends up somewhat braindead as a result if you don't like exactly what the GNOME team likes. Seriously, KDE isn't new. Desktop has really…
Are you actually disagreeing, though? We both seem to agree it needs work. And you're correct the challenge is partly an institutional one -- recruiting and retaining design talent and manpower, and fashioning new ways of working together. It's something we're aware of and working on, and if you'd like to work on it with us we'll welcome you with open arms.
The KDE community isn't unaware of its weak spots and isn't satsified with its weak spots; addressing weak spots is Real Work[tm] though, and doesn't always happen over night. We'd like to think we've made some progress (for example we've identified some things that don't work from past attempts, and that's useful institutional knowledge as well), though. And that it's very much worth doing.
tl;dr If open source is bad at product design, we'd rather not accept that as law of nature and work out how to get better. If that's a challenge you have an appetite for ...
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I just generally don't agree with the mentality / philosophy / culture of the KDE project. Mind if I ask what do you dislike about it? Or what is your perception of the mentality/culture?
Hard to say, it's an instinctive feeling, but let's say that it's a culture of bloat. "Should we do this or that? I don't know, let's make it an option in the settings!" Also, they seem to lack design taste.
So, in the end, you're just a troll. You have no facts, no knowledge, no reference but just your "feelings" about "bloat"; and you keep spitting on KDE's work.
I'm quite sure you've not used KDE since a long time.
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> ... things move slowly ... Why do you think things move slowly? KDE releases Frameworks 5 every month, and Plasma 5 every 3 months, that's pretty fast in my opinion.
Slowly compared to working on a new project from scratch. You can't change the deep, fundumantal things in a big project easily.
I've lost all hope in the KDE project, they simply don't understand UI / UX design.
I think the KDE Visual Design Group is doing a great job and that Breeze and Plasma 5 look great.
I for one am really excited about this. I wrote about why on reddit[1].
Keep up the good work devs!
[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3ejo62/plasma_mobile...
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It's good enough for the mostly tech-oriented users that interact with it though.
I've heard several years ago that their UI philosophy is to target advanced users. No problem with that specifically (although one could argue that you can target casual and advanced users at the same time without much compromises). But their implementation of this philosophy seems to be - "don't think whether it's a good idea to put this button here, just make it an option in the settings". Which is clearly wrong.
The latest KDE iteration has advanced in this regard in leaps and bounds, which is evident also in the favourable reviews it's seen. Just google for "plasma 5.2 review".