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Re: Ask HN: How's your drinking problem?

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At the time of writing this comment, there is just one comment on this thread complaining about the amount of alcohol in company outings. That comment has been downvoted and is now marked [dead]. The question isn't about each individual's drinking problem. The question is about tech culture's drinking problem. And there's the answer: denial.

Agree.

Personally, I don't drink that much. I've had maybe 4 beers in the last month.

Re: Ask HN: How's your drinking problem?

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post #5

One immediate question is when and what constitutes a drinking problem? When is it too much. There are some medical classifications stating that one glass of wine per day constitutes alcoholism. Is that true, or does it make any sense?

I believe it constitutes a problem when your drinking affects your social, economic, or work life negatively.

Re: Ask HN: How's your drinking problem?

#23
I had two beers Wednesday. A glass of wine Monday night. The week prior was a bit like the same. Some weeks it's "none", some weeks it's "more than seven times in seven days." I don't think that constitutes a problem. I've missed more dates because I was writing code and forgot the clock (twice in my lifetime) than I have due to intoxication (zero so far).

Re: Ask HN: How's your drinking problem?

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My problem is that I drink too little, sometimes, I guess I could have "optimized", by taking an evening/night off, and relaxed with a drink. Some "itchiness" in the morning, can be a good thing too, as I remember from school.

Re: Ask HN: How's your drinking problem?

#25
I run a tech meetup. We try to be hospitable, and that means providing food, drinks, and snacks. We provide beer, but I make a conscious effort to make other options as attractive (we probably go through more coconut water than beer). I think it's important to be able to have a social event in tech without alcohol as a centerpiece.

Re: Ask HN: How's your drinking problem?

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It annoys me to no end that alcohol is the primary psychoactive substance in use by the population. I don't think there's anything inherently immoral about consuming a drug to feel a certain way - to relax after work, or help cope with negative feelings. Drugs to achieve these ends are routinely prescribed.

Unfortunately it's often much easier to access alcohol than any of the many other psychoactive substances, either prescribed or currently illegal. In comparison, alcohol is both physically and psychologically far less effective and more dangerous. I do drink myself, but there are many other drugs out there that I would much prefer that don't have the same accessibility or culture as drinking does.

I've been substituting kratom for drinking in when the opportunity arises and I've found it to be terrific improvement - much more relaxing/pleasant with less cognitive impairment, addictiveness and physical side effects.

Anyway, I guess my point is that I drink, and I think it sucks, but only because in comparison alternative substances are so much better (ex marijuana for many people). Of course this assumes moderation, safety etc. etc.

Re: Ask HN: How's your drinking problem?

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post #5

One immediate question is when and what constitutes a drinking problem? When is it too much. There are some medical classifications stating that one glass of wine per day constitutes alcoholism. Is that true, or does it make any sense?

Long story short my mother has an incredibly rare condition that causes her neural stem to be constantly telling her brain her face is in pain, all the time, every day, even though it's fine. She has been prescribed every kind of painkiller, including some of the strongest opiates one can acquire legally in America, and yet they don't affect the rare and hard to reach nerves, and are useless.

However, she does drink a few glasses of wine a day and having tried everything else, she is adamant that alcohol is the only acceptable painkiller for her to take for the rest of her life.

I mention this because I have roughly 1-3 drinks per night -what the doctor told my mother as "average for a Frenchman" - yet when I drink even a beer I lose all motivation to go to the gym that night or to cook a healthy and properly proportioned meal. So I think the way to define a drinking problem isn't in quantity, but by the opportunity cost of drinking or drinking too much on any given occasion.

Re: Ask HN: How's your drinking problem?

#29
Quit altogether for 2 months as a diet experiment, with 2 expectations: 1) it would be socially frictive 2) I would lose some weight. Both were wrong.

1) Quitting had basically no social consequences. The friction of ordering a non-alcoholic drink at a bar is gone by the third time. Only one person gave me shit about it, and they were a friend-of-a-friend and easy to disregard.

2) It had almost no weight-loss effect, in the absence of other diet and exercise improvements. Premise was "does this one thing have a strong effect on my weight?". Given that my previous intake was moderate (< 8 units/week), removing alcohol and leaving the rest of my diet intact resulted in < 3 lbs lost early on, but no ongoing results.

Re: Ask HN: How's your drinking problem?

#30
It's only a problem when I get completely schway every few week and do something out of control like burn my friends lake house chairs that have been in the family for over 100 years.

I want to stop, problem is it's just so much damn fun.

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