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>general compute (CPU cores and system RAM) than graphical compute.
Why? As a gamer I would expect you would want the opposite. Is there a particular reason you have this rule of thumb?
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> 40+ cores per socket
Uh... where? Unless you're referring to non-x86 processors, the largest Intel has released so far is 18 cores per socket.
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#13What are the parts marked "R125" around the edge?
Those look like voltage regulators [0].
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> As a gaming enthusiast, my rule of thumb has been to have more general compute (CPU cores and system RAM) than graphical compute
I also have to ask why? An Intel Pentium with a GTX980 will run almost all AAA games at max settings, except a few outliers (BF4 is the only one I can think of right now).
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#15I'm waiting for the comparisons between NVidia's offerings and Xeon Phi in real benchmarks
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#16> The 17 Billion transistors on the Pascal GPU are twice the transistors found on the GM200 Maxwell and the Fiji XT GPU core which is literally insane Seems like Moore's law is alive and well in the graphics/attached processor space.
That's because GPUs were frozen at the 28nm node since like 2011. It'll be ~4 years of no die shrinks at the top end of GPUs when they finally transition to 16nm. If anything, Moore's law is behind schedule in the GPU space.
Note, that both NVidia and AMD rely on TSMC to manufacture their chips, so they're completely constrained by TSMC's ability to implement new process nodes.
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#17AMD get it together, pretty please. Nobody wants to live in a world where only NVidia produces discrete GPUs! That 32GB seems too high for cost constrained consumer market though - may be they will have a leaner variant for desktops/gaming.
It could be argued that AMD does have it together. If you look at the benchmarks for pretty much any particular price point, AMD & nVidia cards are roughly comparable. AMD is better at some games and resolutions, and nVidia is better at others. Rarely is the difference more than 10%. nVidia used to have a sizable power/noise advantage, but Fury appears to close that gap. AMD even seems to be closing the driver stability gap.
But the Internet effect on the video card market is huge. There are hundreds of online benchmarks, huge fanboy communities, et cetera. The benchmarks magnify small differences causing a winner-take-all effect. The communities create a bandwagon effect. It's a wonder that AMD maintains the share that it does.
Yes, AMD is obviously #2, but it should be a close #2. In most markets close #2 is not a bad position to be in.
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#18AMD get it together, pretty please. Nobody wants to live in a world where only NVidia produces discrete GPUs! That 32GB seems too high for cost constrained consumer market though - may be they will have a leaner variant for desktops/gaming.
AMD already has HBM chips out (Fury X and Fury) and already has a shipping chip with 32 GB of memory (S9170). If you are willing to work with OpenCL the double precision rating of AMD chips is very compelling (look at the W9100 that has been out for a while now has a peak rating of 2.62 TFLOPS double precision!). I am looking forward to HBM equipped firepro cards where the double precision support isnt gimped.
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> As a gaming enthusiast, my rule of thumb has been to have more general compute (CPU cores and system RAM) than graphical compute I also have to ask why? An Intel Pentium with a GTX980 will run almost all AAA games at max settings, except a few outliers (BF4 is the only one I can think of right now).
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#20AMD get it together, pretty please. Nobody wants to live in a world where only NVidia produces discrete GPUs! That 32GB seems too high for cost constrained consumer market though - may be they will have a leaner variant for desktops/gaming.
It could be argued that AMD does have it together. If you look at the benchmarks for pretty much any particular price point, AMD & nVidia cards are roughly comparable. AMD is better at some games and resolutions, and nVidia is better at others. Rarely is the difference more than 10%. nVidia used to have a sizable power/noise advantage, but Fury appears to close that gap. AMD even seems to be closing the driver stabil…
Not sure about their graphics division, but AMD has stopped innovating in the CPU department...