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Re: The Verge's web sucks

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Post by o87dv » Fri, Jul 24, 2015, 8:13 AM UTC

dvh wrote: post #8

After I started working on my own RSS reader, I started converting more and more website to RSS feeds (e.g. twitter, youtube, all news site) where I only extract interesting bits. It's faster and cleaner, not to mension no ads.

Would you mind sharing the program?

Re: The Verge's web sucks

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Post by psykovsky » Fri, Jul 24, 2015, 8:18 AM UTC

oliyoung wrote: post #2

These guys (ie Verge) are going to have a really really tough time when iOS9 lands https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/ios/releaseno...

You talk like Apple is doing something new and owns the market.

Re: The Verge's web sucks

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Post by hyperion_ » Fri, Jul 24, 2015, 8:26 AM UTC

oliyoung wrote: post #2

These guys (ie Verge) are going to have a really really tough time when iOS9 lands https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/ios/releaseno...

I have a hard time seeing the majority of iOS users installing one, this is the same as with most things, if it's not the default, 95% of users won't make use of it.

Is even the majority of users of desktop web browsers actually using adblockers yet?

Adblock Plus on Firefox shows a bit short of 20 million users, while Adblock on Chrome says 'over 200 million downloads', whatever that means in number of users. These numbers don't suggest a majority. (I don't think assuming over 500 million desktop users is crazy.)

Given that iOS is about 20% of total mobile users, this feature will probably make little to no difference, it might be a couple of % of those 20% of users, at the very best.

Re: The Verge's web sucks

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Post by BillinghamJ » Fri, Jul 24, 2015, 8:49 AM UTC

psykovsky wrote: post #12

oliyoung wrote: post #2

These guys (ie Verge) are going to have a really really tough time when iOS9 lands https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/ios/releaseno...

You talk like Apple is doing something new and owns the market.

Not necessarily. But ultimately right now the level of mobile ad blocking is very low. This will make a real difference to that - regardless as to whether it's new or innovative.

Re: The Verge's web sucks

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Post by untilHellbanned » Fri, Jul 24, 2015, 8:56 AM UTC

oliyoung wrote: post #2

These guys (ie Verge) are going to have a really really tough time when iOS9 lands https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/ios/releaseno...

This gives app makers the ability to throttle the ads show when using webViews? So FB, Twitter, etc. can render website content without ads? If so, this is a huge deal and needs to be a separate HN post.

Re: The Verge's web sucks

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Post by dvh » Fri, Jul 24, 2015, 9:10 AM UTC

o87dv wrote: post #11

dvh wrote: post #8

After I started working on my own RSS reader, I started converting more and more website to RSS feeds (e.g. twitter, youtube, all news site) where I only extract interesting bits. It's faster and cleaner, not to mension no ads.

Would you mind sharing the program?

There are plenty of readers, you just need to create the html to rss convertor for specific sites. My code is quite ugly so no. Also they often break when they make changes on website.

Re: The Verge's web sucks

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Post by jbrooksuk » Fri, Jul 24, 2015, 9:20 AM UTC

untilHellbanned wrote: post #15

oliyoung wrote: post #2

These guys (ie Verge) are going to have a really really tough time when iOS9 lands https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/ios/releaseno...

This gives app makers the ability to throttle the ads show when using webViews? So FB, Twitter, etc. can render website content without ads? If so, this is a huge deal and needs to be a separate HN post.

Already discussed; https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9775711

Re: The Verge's web sucks

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Post by o87dv » Fri, Jul 24, 2015, 9:20 AM UTC

dvh wrote: post #16

o87dv wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you mind sharing the program?

There are plenty of readers, you just need to create the html to rss convertor for specific sites. My code is quite ugly so no. Also they often break when they make changes on website.

The converter is actually what I would really like to have. I hate parsing. And fixing it when it breaks. It doesn't matter if the code is ugly. You are trying to parse crappy websites after all. Consider sharing.

Re: The Verge's web sucks

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Post by forty » Fri, Jul 24, 2015, 9:25 AM UTC

I found it quite funny that this article ends like this https://imgur.com/SpEp9UF :)

Re: The Verge's web sucks

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Post by kryptiskt » Fri, Jul 24, 2015, 9:25 AM UTC

oliyoung wrote: post #2

These guys (ie Verge) are going to have a really really tough time when iOS9 lands https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/ios/releaseno...

They can just do what everybody else does, replace the site with "USE THE VERGE APP!!1!", and show the ads there instead. Which is a good reason for Apple to push adblocking in the browser.