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Professional Video Gamers to Be Tested for Doping

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Re: Professional Video Gamers to Be Tested for Doping

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Makes sense. That said, will they not admit anyone who has a legitimate reason for prescription stimulants?

Dosage for controlling ADD compared to that used in a performance enhancing manner is quite drastically different.

Can you quantify the difference?

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Makes sense. That said, will they not admit anyone who has a legitimate reason for prescription stimulants?

In WADA-controlled sports you can get TUEs[1] to solve that problem.

[1] Therapeutic Use Exemptions[2]

[2] https://www.wada-ama.org/en/what-we-do/science-medical/thera...

Re: Professional Video Gamers to Be Tested for Doping

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would we want to officially bias competitions toward people with ADD diagnoses?

Because we don't want people abusing drugs.

I fail to see how a policy of "you can't compete if you're taking meth" promotes drug abuse.

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I don't like the concept of word 'doping'. It is just the word which represents a chemical substance to stimulate body for a better performance. There is however such a hate in using this word. In the past even caffeine in the coffee was considered to be a doping. It is not nowadays Everybody should be allowed to use any chemical substance for himself as he wish. He should be responsible for his own action. If he destroys his health, he should pay for it not the society. There are also people who lives on revealing the 'doping sinners'. It is such a waste of money. People cmmon create something reasonable. Don't waste your time looking for a 'doping' to accuse others for taking it! I take a 'doping' so what?

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post #14

I don't like the concept of word 'doping'. It is just the word which represents a chemical substance to stimulate body for a better performance. There is however such a hate in using this word. In the past even caffeine in the coffee was considered to be a doping. It is not nowadays Everybody should be allowed to use any chemical substance for himself as he wish. He should be responsible for his own action. If he des…

I wouldn't want to compete against people who are prepared to destroy their health to win.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a problem in regular sports too

> "It would be fair to have two Tours de France - one for the asthmatics and one for non-asthmatics," he said. "The funny result would be that the asthmatics would be much faster." From http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/cycling/2007-07-20-369...

Indeed - I competed in amateur rowing while in University (and was legitimately asthmatic) and at least 4 of the people in my crew became asthmatic during the time that we were training together...

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post #14

I don't like the concept of word 'doping'. It is just the word which represents a chemical substance to stimulate body for a better performance. There is however such a hate in using this word. In the past even caffeine in the coffee was considered to be a doping. It is not nowadays Everybody should be allowed to use any chemical substance for himself as he wish. He should be responsible for his own action. If he des…

I wouldn't want to compete against people who are prepared to destroy their health to win.

Then you're not going to be able to compete. Basically all professional sports require someone to push themselves beyond regular human limits, and give up future health to get there even without drugs.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't want to compete against people who are prepared to destroy their health to win.

Then you're not going to be able to compete. Basically all professional sports require someone to push themselves beyond regular human limits, and give up future health to get there even without drugs.

I'm interested to know if this is really true.

I don't think non-contact sports require someone to sacrifice health, except for wearing out their body...

And I'm not convinced they wear out their body more than manual laborers.

And there is definitely a qualitative difference between a 16 year old working hard as a teenager to make it as a professional athlete, and perhaps wearing out their body by the end of their career as a professional athlete (say, 30 years old on average), compared to a 16 year old using substances that would count as "doping" to most people.

To put it plainly:

A 16 year old boy who shows promise as a professional athlete can work hard, realize that they're not cut out for the big leagues after college (22 years old), and go on with their life with basically no ill effects aside from the chance of a major injury sustained during their sport.

Whereas a 16 year old boy who shows promise as a professional athlete, works hard, and also dopes for 6 years until he's 22, and then realizes he's not cut out for the big leagues, has probably irreparably damaged his health.

Re: Professional Video Gamers to Be Tested for Doping

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post #14

I don't like the concept of word 'doping'. It is just the word which represents a chemical substance to stimulate body for a better performance. There is however such a hate in using this word. In the past even caffeine in the coffee was considered to be a doping. It is not nowadays Everybody should be allowed to use any chemical substance for himself as he wish. He should be responsible for his own action. If he des…

We are talking professional competition here, the result of your logic is that anyone who wanted to compete professionaly would have to subject themselves (and their health) to doping.

I don't want to see such a future, where young athletes have no choice but to put their health at severe risk in order to be competitive.

And of course should doping be allowed as you suggest, and naturally everyone would have to use it in order to be competitive, we would see continued escalation in the amount/strength of doping used, since else you would not get a competitive advantage.

In short I can't understand your reasoning.

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