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Firefox nightlies for Linux are now using Gtk+3

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Re: Firefox nightlies for Linux are now using Gtk+3

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Post by captainmuon »

chrismorgan wrote: post #15

And https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=958868 indicates that it has true smooth scrolling. That is, in my opinion, the poster feature for upgrading to GTK+ 3.

Yes, I've been trying the nightly builds (elm branch) on and off for a while, and the smooth scrolling really makes a difference. What it does is it translates touchpad input directly to page scrolling, and not to a series of discreet "scrollwheel up/down" events. Its a very Mac-ish experience.

Another great thing is the fidelity of widgets (buttons, dropdowns) esp. on a high dpi screen.

Re: Firefox nightlies for Linux are now using Gtk+3

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Post by shmerl »

Great! A lot of improvements depend on this GTK3 switch (like using Azure with Skia) and it took quite a while. I'd still prefer Firefox to use Qt 5 instead, but whatever.

Shumway however is still far from finished, and I'm not sure what will happen with plugins which depend on GTK2.

Re: Firefox nightlies for Linux are now using Gtk+3

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Post by cbd1984 »

whoopdedo wrote: post #4
blackle wrote: post #2

oh no.

"oh no" that Firefox is dropping support for a slightly older technology (again)? "oh no" that GTK2 is a sinking ship that everyone is fleeing from? or do you mean "oh no" that Firefox is going to be at the center of yet another incendiary (and ultimately fruitless) debate. Because I can agree that any one of those is a good reason to say "oh no".

I'm voting for "bowl of petunias", and it got cut off before it could say "not again".

The relevance of the "not again" is immediately apparent to people who've gone through a few GUI toolkits.

Re: Firefox nightlies for Linux are now using Gtk+3

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Post by shmerl »

scrollaway wrote: post #24

Anyone from Mozilla aware of the status of the Qt Firefox port? I remember seeing progress on Github and I was really excited for a while, but it seems to have completely disappeared. Right now the Qt world doesn't have an acceptable browser, which is incredibly annoying for us since we're targeting Qt-based desktop environments. I'm hoping the move to GTK3 at the very least helps towards that.

I wish Mozilla started using that instead of GTK Firefox, but they seem to be stuck with it.

Re: Firefox nightlies for Linux are now using Gtk+3

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Post by TD-Linux »

scrollaway wrote: post #24

Anyone from Mozilla aware of the status of the Qt Firefox port? I remember seeing progress on Github and I was really excited for a while, but it seems to have completely disappeared. Right now the Qt world doesn't have an acceptable browser, which is incredibly annoying for us since we're targeting Qt-based desktop environments. I'm hoping the move to GTK3 at the very least helps towards that.

I haven't seen any activity around the Qt port for a long time.

Really the main visible difference is the file/print dialogs. I think maybe XDG would be a better way to standardize that, and would fix many other apps as well.

Re: Firefox nightlies for Linux are now using Gtk+3

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Post by agumonkey »

evmar wrote: post #16

Chrome used GTK2 as that was current at the time, and when we looked into GTK3 we concluded that it'd be a pain to target both simultaneously (the point of the new major version number is that the API changed) and that as long as we were supporting old distros (e.g. "Long Term Support" versions) we should keep GTK2. These days, those older versions are dying away, but Chrome doesn't use much GTK anyway. I wonder how…

Some discussion here https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=79722

Re: Firefox nightlies for Linux are now using Gtk+3

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Post by scrollaway »

mappu wrote: post #26
scrollaway wrote: post #24

Anyone from Mozilla aware of the status of the Qt Firefox port? I remember seeing progress on Github and I was really excited for a while, but it seems to have completely disappeared. Right now the Qt world doesn't have an acceptable browser, which is incredibly annoying for us since we're targeting Qt-based desktop environments. I'm hoping the move to GTK3 at the very least helps towards that.

>we're targeting Qt-based desktop environments What project are you working on?

I am the project lead of LXQt.

Re: Firefox nightlies for Linux are now using Gtk+3

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Post by johnchristopher »

babuskov wrote: post #23
cjsthompson wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gtk+ 3 is part of the modern degenerate conspiracy along with systemd and other abominations such as kdbus to destroy Linux by straying from the time-honored ancestral traditions of UNIX which were devised when men were still true hardworking men, that spent hours of sweat and tears configuring their window managers and compiling kernel modules as was ordained by the ancients.

Do you have a blog? I like the way you write and would like to read more.

https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=cjsthompson

Re: Firefox nightlies for Linux are now using Gtk+3

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Post by Zardoz84 »

scrollaway wrote: post #24

Anyone from Mozilla aware of the status of the Qt Firefox port? I remember seeing progress on Github and I was really excited for a while, but it seems to have completely disappeared. Right now the Qt world doesn't have an acceptable browser, which is incredibly annoying for us since we're targeting Qt-based desktop environments. I'm hoping the move to GTK3 at the very least helps towards that.

Rekonq actually uses WebKit under the hood, and it's pretty fast (faster that firefox and chrome) and lightweight, without any issue of compatibility problem on any webpage. The only big issue is that was very unstable for a lot of time.. at least on KUbuntu.
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