Linked in is the king of dark patterns and practices. I was foolish enough to sign up for a free 30 trial period (of course handing over credit card details with the expectation they wont just automatically charging me and seek my permission before charging). I didn’t check my cc statements for a few months and there you have it ...linked in charged me every month after the trail period ended.
LinkedIn quietly removes option to export contacts
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you for real or just exaggerating to add some unneeded emphasis to your disdain of LinkedIn? While I don't think LinkedIn is the shining star, it's definitely not one of the worst websites I've ever used; it's actually been quite helpful for connecting with people.
I can't talk about the interface but for people who don't have an account there, this website is absolutely hostile. (think: much worse than most) I'm a calm person but I needed serious gmail filter tinkering to catch all those we-want-you-to-join-or-feel-bad emails.
I think the worst thing they do is ask you to connect with your email account and then they continually spam your contacts to join LinkedIn. It's bad, but they're not the only ones doing that.
Interface-wise it's not that bad, but I don't use all the features (free user) and don't spend much time on there.
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#33Not sure I share the experience w/LinkedIn that apparently the majority of HNers have. I get very, very few recruiter messages through LinkedIn. The ones I do get are thoughtful and do a very good job of matching skill-set, background, etc.--they have obviously read my profile and are not just fishing.
This has not always been the case. I used to get the hated torrent of "I see you have 12 years of development experience, how about this entry level position!!!" crap, but I haven't seen one of those in a long time. Either recruiters are getting better, or something I put in my profile has quieted down the garbage.
Either way, I don't think there's much that I've put on that site that I'd feel the need to "export" so the topic of this article seems to be a non-issue. You folks don't have alternate copies of your resume and contacts somewhere?
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#34LinkedIn is a worthless piece of spammy shit of a website these days. I haven't bothered deleting my account but I haven't logged into it in like a year now and any mail I get from them that somehow makes it through the filters is reported as spam. I can only surmise they made this change to make it harder for (more) people to bail because they know how dreadful using their site is now and this is an easier "fix" tha…
Some sites just give off a vibe that prevents me from ever trusting them, LinkedIn is the most predominant in that category and I have never been able to put my finger on exactly why. The email proxy apps and the pay to see who viewed your profile aspects don't help. I'm not saying that it's any worse than any other sites, but LinkedIn has always felt like a shady company, like they're not on the users side. I was re…
its because they tell the user that you clicked their profile. what kind of bullshit is that, I wanna compare myself to other people without them knowing.
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#35why hasn't anybody disrupted linkedin yet? what would you like to see instead of linkedin? snapchat for business professionals?
Network effects.
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#36LinkedIn has never been interesting to me for anything other than looking at what past coworkers have been up to. I've never once had an experience where LinkedIn led to a job and in fact after I deleted my account my recruiter email volume dropped by an order of magnitude. I've also read that potential employers search candidates LinkedIn contacts to see if there are any existing employees and if so ask them about t…
Recruiters add liquidity to the labor market. I really don't see how they are a bad thing.
Adding fake liquidity actually removes liquidity.
Imagine if you were selling your house, and I created a service that would bombard you with 10 fake potential buyers a day. You only have time to deal with 2 buyers a day. Chances are, you'll miss out on everyone who is actually interested.
While LinkedIn does not intend to create fake recruitment attempts, it works out the same in the end.
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#37I've never been on linkedin but i get 10-15 "requests to connect" every week - luckily i've filtered them to skip the inbox, since unsubscribing to them doesn't seem to do anything.
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#38LinkedIn has never been interesting to me for anything other than looking at what past coworkers have been up to. I've never once had an experience where LinkedIn led to a job and in fact after I deleted my account my recruiter email volume dropped by an order of magnitude. I've also read that potential employers search candidates LinkedIn contacts to see if there are any existing employees and if so ask them about t…
Poor you! How rude of those recruiters offering you money and a career! I know I hate it when people offer me ways of feeding my family.
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#39Linked in is the king of dark patterns and practices. I was foolish enough to sign up for a free 30 trial period (of course handing over credit card details with the expectation they wont just automatically charging me and seek my permission before charging). I didn’t check my cc statements for a few months and there you have it ...linked in charged me every month after the trail period ended.
Did you ever have trial magazine subscriptions? I cannot think of any subscription-based service (other than MMO subscriptions) where the implicit assumption was not, "Keep charging unless they cancel during the trial period".
This behavior being so common is one of the reasons I have a nearly gut-level aversion to services that OFFER a free trial.
I much prefer a free tier of service, with a clear indication of the upsell options. For services I like (like Toggl) that have a free tier of service, I am still skittish of the trials of "pro" tiers, precisely out of the fear that it might be a hassle to cancel, rather than a "we assume you're going to cancel".
Everything I recall reading about setting up a subscription service suggests that the default-to-stay-subscribed method leads to more revenue (as people forget), and as customers we're accustomed to think, "well, that WAS my fault ...". In a normal subscription scenario, even, that probably is nicer to customers. However, for a __trial__, I would prefer to see an end of the paid service, rather than to start receiving bills.
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#40LinkedIn has never been interesting to me for anything other than looking at what past coworkers have been up to. I've never once had an experience where LinkedIn led to a job and in fact after I deleted my account my recruiter email volume dropped by an order of magnitude. I've also read that potential employers search candidates LinkedIn contacts to see if there are any existing employees and if so ask them about t…
Poor you! How rude of those recruiters offering you money and a career! I know I hate it when people offer me ways of feeding my family.
> after I deleted my account my recruiter email volume dropped by an order of magnitude.
Normal people consider that a feature of Linked In, not a bug.