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Who Do You Believe, Randall Stross or Your Own Lying Eyes?

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Re: Who Do You Believe, Randall Stross or Your Own Lying Eyes?

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More importantly, I couldn't care less whose problem it is. I paid $70/mo to T-Mobile for three lines on a family plan, in addition to three free (admittedly crappy) phones, and had a stellar reception everywhere. Now I pay $80/mo to AT&T/Apple for a single line, in addition to $250 cost for the phone, and I can't make a single call without problems in 90% of the places I go to. The important message is "shut up, stop pointing fingers, and fix it", not a guessing game about whose problem it is. It will only become interesting to me from a purely intellectual, technical perspective when they fix the problem. For now, I couldn't care less who's at fault.

Re: Who Do You Believe, Randall Stross or Your Own Lying Eyes?

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post #3

I get much better AT&T coverage away from San Francisco. And AT&T customers not on iPhones don't seem to have the same level of complaint. (Lower expectations, or better on-phone radio-link-management?) Perhaps it's a little of both: AT&T's network is somewhat thin and overloaded exactly where media and tech-influentials most notice, and the iPhone is more fragile when facing that than other devices.

iPhone users use data more than users of other phones, so if there are problems they will notice them proportionally more than users of other phones.

Re: Who Do You Believe, Randall Stross or Your Own Lying Eyes?

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have an LG phone with at&t, and a droid with verizon. Verizon gets where at&t can't, even if you just compare non-3g.

That's interesting, but not quite what I'm looking for. I'm trying to find out if the iPhone is a good phone on a crappy network, or a crappy phone on a crappy network. How does your LG perform in urban areas like SF, Seattle, or NYC? How's the 3G performance in those situations?

Sorry, I am pretty short of information--mostly here in Chicago area, and don't yet have a handle on the 3g performance.

Re: Who Do You Believe, Randall Stross or Your Own Lying Eyes?

#24
It's both. I hear from some friends at mobile operators that the radio network code on the iPhone is pretty troublesome compared to other vendors. At the same time iPhone users use more bandwidth than certain operators planned for.

Operators need to boost capacity. Apple needs to improve their networking code.

Re: Who Do You Believe, Randall Stross or Your Own Lying Eyes?

#25
I am in AU and have terrible coverage with my iphone, as do several of my friends/colleagues. However, just as in the US it seems that some of the other networks are much better. I wonder if there is actually some issue or incompatibility in the infrastructure that leads to some problems.
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