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While I in no way agreeing with this decision why are these people responsible for the terrible decision of the USPTO? They just get to apply for a patent, not issue one. The employee(s) at the USPTO that approved this patent are the ones that should be ashamed.
Not everybody that patents a [generic description of] a system they're developing has any intention of doing anything other than protecting themselves from others' claims. Aside: I had an interesting conversation a couple of months back with a guy who had a very broad patent on methods of operating a digital auction dating back to the early 2000s which as worded clashed with everything from Betfair to Priceline. He's…
Time-Series Database patented by GE
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Re: Time-Series Database patented by GE
#42I remember trolling the linked list patent people 10+ years ago. I sent them an email saying my software made extensive uses of linked lists and it had come to my attention that they had patented them. They sent me to their legal department to arrange an agreement. Insane. I wonder how influxdb et al will receive this news. Here is the list of people who should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves: Lin; Jerry (Latham,…
I don't see many folks here who've actually read the claims of this patent and analyzed them for validity. For all we know, this could be a legit difference over the art. But hey, claims are hard, let's go shopping. Or shame people, whatever.
If people want some chance of expert analysis, they should submit this to askpatents.com
Re: Time-Series Database patented by GE
#43The primary claim of novelty in this patent is storing index block metadata on a separate server than the storage blocks. To the extent that pretty much every distributed time-series platform ever designed separates index block metadata from storage blocks, it does not reflect positively on the competency of the software team at GE that they think this is novel. (I realize that this may not have been the choice of the software team.)
Furthermore, in properly designed systems, these functions are separated at the granularity of a process rather than a server because it is more flexible and efficient. They can be implemented on separate servers, and usually are, but it is not a requirement because requiring it would be stupid. But if GE did not make this a requirement, I doubt it would have withstood even the nominal prior art search; that limitation on scope was needed to get it through.
Overall, the architecture of the time-series database implied in the patent is consistent with someone that learned their poor distributed system habits from the Hadoop ecosystem and decided to reinvent the time-series database without knowing much about how those systems actually work. However, I am not surprised this made it through the US patent system.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not everybody that patents a [generic description of] a system they're developing has any intention of doing anything other than protecting themselves from others' claims. Aside: I had an interesting conversation a couple of months back with a guy who had a very broad patent on methods of operating a digital auction dating back to the early 2000s which as worded clashed with everything from Betfair to Priceline. He's…
Why did he file a patent in the first place?
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unfortunately, USPTO only considers other patents or academic papers as prior art.
Are you sure? I've been involved in several instances where demonstrable systems were enough.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
>> Because of the company's rules my name needed to be on the patent despite my objections. Then you had the ability to stop it.
Even if I had quit my name would have been on the patent. I'm interested in hearing how I could have stopped it once the process started.
Then you'd be a patent owner and could sue for infringement. OTOH you probably agreed to sell them all your IP for $1 or something when you hired in.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Even if I had quit my name would have been on the patent. I'm interested in hearing how I could have stopped it once the process started.
>> Even if I had quit my name would have been on the patent. I'm interested in hearing how I could have stopped it once the process started. Then you'd be a patent owner and could sue for infringement. OTOH you probably agreed to sell them all your IP for $1 or something when you hired in.
usually a condition of employment. FMI see Assignment of Inventions clause - all companies should have employees sign before hiring.
Re: Time-Series Database patented by GE
#48I remember trolling the linked list patent people 10+ years ago. I sent them an email saying my software made extensive uses of linked lists and it had come to my attention that they had patented them. They sent me to their legal department to arrange an agreement. Insane. I wonder how influxdb et al will receive this news. Here is the list of people who should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves: Lin; Jerry (Latham,…
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The USPTO is a profit center for the US government. Every extra patent submitted reduces the amount of tax everyone else has to pay. If the USPTO is approving bogus patents then should not the effort be on solving this rather than stopping people applying?
No, it isn't. Look at their budget[1]; very little money enters or leaves the office. The billions collected in the patent and trademark process are all spent on the patent and trademark process. [1] http://www.uspto.gov/sites/default/files/documents/fy16pbr.p...
If people stop putting in bogus patents applications the US tax payer is going to have to start paying to support the USPTO. Lets hope with less applications coming in that the staff at the USPTO have more time to stop these dubious patents being issued.