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"If the project is behind schedule, Gigster just assigns more developers to it or fires under-performing ones so it gets done on time." - Somebody hasn't read Mythical Man-Month.
> Somebody hasn't read Mythical Man-Month. Or managed a software development project of any significance.
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Translation: we're burning other people's money so we can underbid anyone and build a customer book. Of course, at some point someone is going to want the business to be profitable and then, hey presto, you're a dev shop like all the other dev shops.
I'm disappointed in YC for funding this; I think it's destructive to the hacker economy/ecosystem. Excerpting a comment from a thread last year re: Marc Andressen's complaints about startup burn rates that applies: --------- I find it very hard not to get angry at these posts... ...One of the biggest problems facing my company right now is dealing with all of the venture-funded idiots coming after my customers, marke…
Unsustainable business models backed by a sugar daddy offering even more commoditization taking spoiled and angry users out of the market? Fine with me if you believe in free lunches, but somebody is paying for it, and cash is a finite resource so.
I can definitely understand the anger and that was my initial reaction last year but then I just stopped giving a damn. I stopped caring. I don't have to take this client and offer them deep discounts to match "free". I realized I rarely have to do anything. I can simply choose to wait for the next bus which won't be crammed with ton of people fighting over seats. I am so much happier and profitable as a result.
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> that's where our platform comes in. "our platform" is quickly overtaking "the cloud" as something a web browser extension should replace with "butt".
If you're using firefox, here you go: https://gist.github.com/kennethrapp/abbbca60ec286cc73f92
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So you ask clients to give Gigster equity? Also, would love to hear more about your pricing generally.
Hi! Not all clients, just a select few. We collect data on all the projects we do and infer prices automatically :) Generally you can expect a Gigster project to be way cheaper (we've seen 10X in some cases) than what an agency would charge and often times cheaper or on par with similarly curated services like toptal but with the added convenience you get from having a product manager like an agency would provide.
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If you're using firefox, here you go: https://gist.github.com/kennethrapp/abbbca60ec286cc73f92
now we need this for Chrome!
From the gigster faq "Profits come later when we are at scale" From the faq. 1. This is dangerous if there is no clear plan on what competitive advantage scale gets you. - Is it network effects? - Is there some other benefit that i am missing? Would it drive down the marginal costs of the project once you have an existing library or ways to optimize the process? 2. I have a theory, running at a loss, free or with no…
marketplaces have strong network effects
YLXAWJHC i want a youporn clone 2 minutes ago
YLXAWJHC hello? a minute ago
YLXAWJHC I need this done ASAP a minute ago
YLXAWJHC can you agree to equity share? a minute ago
YLXAWJHC once I market it it will be HUGE a minute ago
DEBO we take equity on some projects :) However we dont really discount the projects that much a few seconds ago
DEBO for them what's your budget here? a few seconds ago
YLXAWJHC well 1k to start a few seconds ago
It's pretty worrisome that they say "The Gigsters come from companies like Google or Stripe that are looking for some extra projects." Google is pretty strict about side projects done by its employees; its IP release claims ownership over anything "along the lines of business of Google", which the company has in the past interpreted as "anything tech-related". There's a release process, but I really doubt they would…
You're right that Google has a clause for IP/Invention Assignment, but if push comes to shove a court would probably invalidate overly broad parts of a Google employees employment contract, so I think this fear is overblown. But 1) IANAL and 2) I didn't work at Google.
It's pretty worrisome that they say "The Gigsters come from companies like Google or Stripe that are looking for some extra projects." Google is pretty strict about side projects done by its employees; its IP release claims ownership over anything "along the lines of business of Google", which the company has in the past interpreted as "anything tech-related". There's a release process, but I really doubt they would…
They cannot claim legal ownership of copyright or patents on projects developed outside of Google working hours and not using Google equipment. I believe there have been some cases already in the California courts over the matter. It doesn't matter what their agreement says, the law says otherwise.
2. They can claim just about anything they like, then you get to defend yourself.
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This actually sounds like a fantastic opportunity to have your development work subsidized by some rich VCs.
Ha, exactly, except that too good to be true usually is. I have a hard time believing the "low ball high volume" strategy is going to lead to well-executed projects.
From another pov they are vc to idea guys, only instead of giving the money for equity they give the product for equity. With the difference that they also get paid for it!