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Re: Examining Microsoft Edge Browser Performance

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Post by ascagnel_ »

recursive wrote: post #127
Loque wrote: post #109

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I am curious why you do not, have you tried? Life is bliss.

I'm kind of opposed to the concept. If a web site is serving a page that is annoying to use, my solution is to not use it. I don't feel like doing usability improvements that should be done by the site operator.

You don't always have that option -- there will always be some crappy website out there that requires re-arranging your life to avoid (whether it be for a job, a bank loan, an apartment, the DMV, etc.).

Re: Examining Microsoft Edge Browser Performance

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Post by AaronFriel »

Manishearth wrote: post #99
AaronFriel wrote: post #90

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Cortana is, but the Edge process is not that I can find. but that's only part of the story. If the libraries utilized by Edge are already loaded by other processes, they benefit from being in memory already. Still, I notice Edge launches faster than Chrome even when I have a separate "Chrome App" open (e.g.: Hangouts). But you have to remember that Chrome essentially re-implements the ChromeOS on top of Windows. Much…

Note that Servo proper isn't supposed to _have_ a UI (well, a browser chrome). It's an engine, Servo maps better to Trident or Gecko (rather than Firefox/Chrome/Edge). There are some experimental UIs for Servo though (which are also minimalistic, but that's because there hasn't been much work there yet)

Oops! You're right. I was thinking of servo-shell and the few other wrappers. They're very, thin shims around the renderer.

Re: Examining Microsoft Edge Browser Performance

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Post by recursive »

ascagnel_ wrote: post #131
recursive wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm kind of opposed to the concept. If a web site is serving a page that is annoying to use, my solution is to not use it. I don't feel like doing usability improvements that should be done by the site operator.

You don't always have that option -- there will always be some crappy website out there that requires re-arranging your life to avoid (whether it be for a job, a bank loan, an apartment, the DMV, etc.).

For sites that are important to my life, I prefer not to have plugins modifying their contents in potentially intent-changing ways. Ad-blockers make no guarantee to preserve functionality.

Re: Examining Microsoft Edge Browser Performance

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Post by ygra »

iso8859-1 wrote: post #112
gcb0 wrote: post #102

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not on windows for some time, but i recall F4 also does that on all languages. i think ^L just focused the address bar, F4 focused the address bar and already opened the recently typed dropdown.

Don't you mean F6?

F6 focuses the address bar (or rather, different "panes" of the application in order; you can use it similarly in Explorer, for example). F4 indeed works in the way they described by focusing the address bar and opening the drop-down.

Re: Examining Microsoft Edge Browser Performance

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Post by Mikerad1979 »

Encosia wrote: post #89
bepotts wrote: post #74

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"Everyone" wasn't the literal everyone, "everyone" is the group of people that buy a Windows OS and install another browser. Those people know what a browser is.

Maybe I misunderstood, but I was replying to your overall message about: > I wonder how much the Edge's performance will affect the average person's decision to use it or not. About half of people using Windows continue using IE right now. So, "everyone" and "average" definitely refer to a lot of people who have absolutely no idea what any of us are talking about in this entire page of comments. It's so easy to under…

I have an excellent example of this. Despite having both Chrome and Firefox installed on my home desktop computer, my wife continues to use IE 11. Even with her own profile for Chrome, and using an Android phone with Chrome, she still sticks with IE for some odd reason.

Re: Examining Microsoft Edge Browser Performance

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Post by tracker1 »

ethana wrote: post #70
tracker1 wrote: post #60

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Has IE11 added new features since release, or has it only been security/bugfixes?

IE11 on Windows 8/8.1 got updated with EME and MSE for Netflix HTML5 video. Also new F12 devtools. IE11 on Windows 7 is sadly not getting any new features, only updated with bug fixes and security updates.

So, for most of the users of Windows, no real IE11 updates for about two years now... I think my point really stands... most feature development is on IEvNext/Edge/Spartan ... When MS releases a browser with broad, rolling updates with significant new features keeping up with other browsers in a release cycle that isn't two years apart, I'll believe it when I see it...

So far, it really hasn't been the case since before IE6 came out.

Re: Examining Microsoft Edge Browser Performance

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Post by tracker1 »

gcb0 wrote: post #105
Someone1234 wrote: post #15

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IE has been discontinued so won't keep pace with Chrome or Firefox. IE 11 is the last version ever. Edge has replaced IE. Edge is set to receive continuous updates the same way Chrome/Firefox do today. It is not pinned to Windows or Service Pack releases like IE was historically.

> It is not pinned to Windows or Service Pack releases like IE was historically and chrome was on android pre 4.2. though it was called "stock browser" then.

That's fair, but it really wasn't Google preventing newer android releases for handset manufacturers, or the carriers. It's also the main reason the browser was separated out, so that it could be updated separately.

Re: Examining Microsoft Edge Browser Performance

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Post by ethana »

tracker1 wrote: post #136
ethana wrote: post #70

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IE11 on Windows 8/8.1 got updated with EME and MSE for Netflix HTML5 video. Also new F12 devtools. IE11 on Windows 7 is sadly not getting any new features, only updated with bug fixes and security updates.

So, for most of the users of Windows, no real IE11 updates for about two years now... I think my point really stands... most feature development is on IEvNext/Edge/Spartan ... When MS releases a browser with broad, rolling updates with significant new features keeping up with other browsers in a release cycle that isn't two years apart, I'll believe it when I see it... So far, it really hasn't been the case since bef…

To be honest, IE11 has been dealing with the web as well as the other major browsers since there haven't been any major new browser standards in the last two years. Maybe WebRTC, but no one is making a commercial service out of that yet.

With Windows 10 deploying en masse, IE11 is already in sunsetting mode. Windows 10 and Edge is on rolling updates so they are getting new features more frequently. Service Release 1 is out next month and Threshold 2 features update is out by year end.

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