Hackers Remotely Attack a Jeep on the Highway

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Jul 21, 2015, 4:52 PM UTC

_yosefk wrote: post #172

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There are problems with power and corruption.... But Have you seen what happens to communities when police withdraw? They become overrun by gangs and other less accountable organizations. Even favelas where cops act paramilitarily, say in Caracas, people still want cops because no cops is usually worse, unless you get a private version of cops, which is essentially cops by another name.

Not to disagree with you, but to add a data point (or rather an anecdote) - I heard a few people from Moscow claiming that they're more afraid of cops than criminals. (Of course, even if it's not an exaggeration and even if it reflects the actual probabilities of getting hurt by cops and criminals there, it does not follow that things wouldn't be even worse without a police force.)

Post by it_learnses » Tue, Jul 21, 2015, 4:53 PM UTC

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Some questions for the researchers, or anyone else who thinks this was okay: 1) Were public roadways and speeds of 70mph absolutely necessary to demo this? 2) What was the plan if the trucker approaching at 70mph hadn't seen the Jeep stalled early and had to swerve or panic stop, possibly crashing and injuring themselves or others? 3) Anyone notify the Missouri State Highway Patrol about this? They may be contacting…

Calling the police on security researchers...I honestly cannot believe this is considered acceptable behavior. A much less aggressive (and thoughtful) move would be to contact the researchers directly. Wow. Back to the article, I think that this type of exploit will become more and more common as vehicles become more connected and automated. We need to know that we can trust the software and firmware running on the d…

Post by pyre » Tue, Jul 21, 2015, 4:53 PM UTC

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> Calling the police on security researchers...I honestly cannot believe this is considered acceptable behavior. But putting many lives in danger is considered acceptable behavior by security researchers? Does it actually matter that it was security researchers? Do security researchers working on banking software need to steal a million dollars in order to prove that they've found an issue? Would calling the police b…

Slowing down and eventually driving off on to a grass shoulder wouldn't even crack the bottom 1% of crazy shit I've seen people do on highways, on purpose. IMO, the danger to the public caused by the researchers somewhat-controlled exploit is utterly dwarfed by the danger Jeep/uConnect is causing by directly connecting its cars to the internet. If the researchers are successful in getting car manufacturers to remove…

Post by flountown » Tue, Jul 21, 2015, 4:54 PM UTC

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> Was it life threatening? Hardly. Uhh what? It seems you cannot go a week without reading about a pile-up on a freeway. Just last week a big-rig lost a wheel, it rolled into the on-coming lane, and drivers swerving and braking to avoid it actually caused a pile up. Stopping even on the shoulder on a freeway is considered "risky" by most police officers and many (like triple digits) have been killed while stopped in…

They decelerated a car. The brakes weren't even applied. This happens all the time on highways. It is unfortunate that it happened where there was no shoulder on the road, but if an accident did happen then I'm not so sure the researchers or journalist would be at fault. Here's a scenario: Let's say a person is driving a car, when their car engine fails. There's no shoulder for them to drive onto, so they are just sl…

Post by nnbvv » Tue, Jul 21, 2015, 4:55 PM UTC

Canada wrote: post #154

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Same here. Posts like these make me take the effort to log in just to downvote. Sad to see such a mindset to gain so much traction.

Calling the police was completely inappropriate, but downvoting the comment as a way to signal your disapproval with his action in the real world isn't helpful. The comment itself is well written, on topic, and leading to good discussion. I agree with what others have already said: Since nobody was actually hurt he should have contacted the researchers to make his point.