ive just discovered HN has an awful neoliberal bias, and is full of cunty fucking capitalist money obsessed techs. its a real shame you have this ignorance amongst supposedly intelligent people. as a result i wont be using it again, and i suggest you look at articles about politically sensitive subjects and watch them being removed from the front page double quick time. the comment strategy makes sure that no alternative opinions will remain online. fuck hacker news.
What happens when you talk about salaries at Google
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Re: What happens when you talk about salaries at Google
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
She created an internal spreadsheet allowing Googlers to add their salary information. Lots of people helped tweak the sheet adding data visualizations, comparisons, etc. Google management told her they didn't like it, she pointed out that you can't be fired for sharing salary information. Lots of colleagues were giving her "peer bonuses" for setting this up, but her manager kept blocking them, something which is app…
What's a peer bonus?
Fellow Co-Workers nominate someone for a peer bonus, and if approved by a manager (edit: or whomever is responsible for approval), you get an extra $100 on your next paycheck (on your gross pay at least, but still nice).
Re: What happens when you talk about salaries at Google
#23So... here's A problem with this.
Are you verifying that the users are actually who they say they are when they share salaries? What if I were to go into the form and say that I was you, and that you made a billion dollars more than everyone else. Would that cause drama?
This just seems like a horrible idea. Feelings will be hurt. Productivity will be lost. Someone will quit. Maybe someone will benefit, but it's almost certainly not good for your team or your company.
People agree to work for salaries. They put down numbers like what they earned at their last job, or what they are looking for in the new job, and then employers make offers based on that. If someone agreed to work for a number, and is getting paid that... why make drama?
Re: What happens when you talk about salaries at Google
#24Don't be evil (with exceptions).
Re: What happens when you talk about salaries at Google
#25ive just discovered HN has an awful neoliberal bias, and is full of cunty fucking capitalist money obsessed techs. its a real shame you have this ignorance amongst supposedly intelligent people. as a result i wont be using it again, and i suggest you look at articles about politically sensitive subjects and watch them being removed from the front page double quick time. the comment strategy makes sure that no alterna…
haha thanks for the upvote! hahaha. there are a few people who realise this.
Re: What happens when you talk about salaries at Google
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
She created an internal spreadsheet allowing Googlers to add their salary information. Lots of people helped tweak the sheet adding data visualizations, comparisons, etc. Google management told her they didn't like it, she pointed out that you can't be fired for sharing salary information. Lots of colleagues were giving her "peer bonuses" for setting this up, but her manager kept blocking them, something which is app…
What's a peer bonus?
I've read that you can award a $150 bonus to another colleague, at which point a manager can approve or block the award. The second part,- manager blocking her from getting the bonus is what sparked the additional controversy.
edit: sibling comment says $100, could be either or.
Re: What happens when you talk about salaries at Google
#27fuck you silicon valley money obsessed programmer. you are a traitor to hacker culture.
Re: What happens when you talk about salaries at Google
#28The article format is completely busted by Twitter's display rules and made unreadable. In this case, formatting the text in a readable way would probably get you sued. Those tweets belong to Twitter now and are good for nothing else but ferrying ads. I won't have my time wasted by trying to read that crap.
Why do people insist on using that medium for blogging? It would be better to tweet, "Guys, I updated my blog with a story about this thing (link)".
30 tweets makes 30 times the claim on attention of your followers, regardless of content. A single tweet is 30 times less likely to be read. This is a structural inefficiency of the twitter platform.
Re: What happens when you talk about salaries at Google
#29Managers evidently aren't supposed to approve more than one peer bonus for the same single act. I work at Google and hadn't heard of that policy before (then again, I'm not a manager) but it came up in an earlier thread.
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#30i hope things like this serve as a wake up call to all young talents willing to sacrifice their lives for these companies, enamored with some idealized visions of what they are and do.
a company is a company. an agent for making money, first and foremost. any positive change they bring is a side-effect, and due to their ever greater power they must constantly be policed, at least by releasing unpleasant information like this.