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Re: Visual Studio 2015 and .NET 4.6 Available for Download

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Post by GFK_of_xmaspast » Mon, Jul 20, 2015, 9:22 PM UTC

dragonwriter wrote: post #95

RoboSeldon wrote: post #88

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Pretty sure if you make more than 1mil per year you can afford to buy VS. The community edition is intended for indies, hobbyists and small enterprises.

> Pretty sure if you make more than 1mil per year you can afford to buy VS. The community edition is intended for indies, hobbyists and small enterprises. $1 million in revenue is a very small enterprise.

$1200 for VS professional is one tenth of one percent of a million dollars, plus you get a msdn subscription, and if you're paying a programmer more than $62400 (gross) it's less than a week's salary.

Re: Visual Studio 2015 and .NET 4.6 Available for Download

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Post by swyphcosmo » Mon, Jul 20, 2015, 9:26 PM UTC

richerlariviere wrote: post #89

I hope they plan to bring Visual Studio on Mac OS X

Have you seen Visual Studio Code [1]? It's not full VS, but it's a good start.

[1] https://code.visualstudio.com/

Re: Visual Studio 2015 and .NET 4.6 Available for Download

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Post by WorldWideWayne » Mon, Jul 20, 2015, 9:46 PM UTC

AaronFriel wrote: post #91

WorldWideWayne wrote: post #87

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I used Server 2012 with Hyper-V enabled on this very same machine, with no problem. Something changed in R2 because as soon as I enable it and reboot, my video card is no longer recognized, the 2nd display doesn't work and when I go to re-install the video drivers (nVidia Quadro 600), it can't find the card. I'm pretty sure that I called Microsoft or otherwise got definitive information from them that there was no fi…

I found a similar issue here: https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/3a0yra/nvidia_... Did you try manually installing the Quadro drivers? It sounds like it's not so much a Hyper-V issue as a 2012 R2 issue.

Thanks. I'll try that out.

Re: Visual Studio 2015 and .NET 4.6 Available for Download

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Post by entitycontext » Mon, Jul 20, 2015, 9:47 PM UTC

highmastdon wrote: post #29

Too bad this does only contain the preview of .NET 5. I hoped this release would bring a more stable version of .NET 5

The ASP.NET team recently published a roadmap here: https://github.com/aspnet/Home/wiki/Roadmap

There will be three more beta releases scheduled for July, August and September, followed by a release candidate in November. RC 1 will have a go-live license and support for production deployment on x86/x64 Windows, Mac and Linux.

There may be more than one RC release, depending on feedback, but the final release should be some time in Q1 2016.

Re: Visual Studio 2015 and .NET 4.6 Available for Download

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Post by tracker1 » Mon, Jul 20, 2015, 10:02 PM UTC

megaman22 wrote: post #80

Cshelton wrote: post #10

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Yes it is. Although, is .Net fully open sourced yet? or still in the process? I'm not so sure you can build an IOS app quite yet in visual studio?

Parts of it. Stuff like WinForms and System.Web are so wrapped around the axle of Windows that they probably won't be open-sourced, but a lot of it has been.

Winforms is fairly windows centric, but iirc there is a Mono compatability for most of the interfaces... as to System.Web, I'm pretty sure this has been open since ASP.Net v3, which iirc is included with Mono.

I haven't tracked Mono & .Net as closely for the past few years as I've been doing far more node dev, and/or migrating away from .Net apps.

Re: Visual Studio 2015 and .NET 4.6 Available for Download

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Post by tracker1 » Mon, Jul 20, 2015, 10:10 PM UTC

dragonwriter wrote: post #86

RoboSeldon wrote: post #84

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You can use Community at work as long as you are a small enterprise (less than 5 dev) and you make less than some (huge) amount per year.

> You can use Community at work as long as you are a small enterprise (less than 5 dev) and you make less than some (huge) amount per year. $1 million annual revenue isn't exactly a huge amount.

Agreed... if you have 5 software developers, and other overhead, you'll hit that while barely at a break even point. That said, the relative costs if you have that many employees is pretty small.

I don't think the break point is particularly unfair... there are lots of students, and small/indie developers that can use the Community Edition, where before you had to cobble along with the Express versions. I now use Community at home, which is just easier to deal with.

Re: Visual Studio 2015 and .NET 4.6 Available for Download

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Post by wluu » Mon, Jul 20, 2015, 10:20 PM UTC

math wrote: post #41

For me, .NET Core and ASP.NET 5 are the most exciting things going on in this space at the moment. On Linux, it's all still too buggy to be usable in beta5 (the version shipping with VS2015), but the vibe I'm getting from the weekly standups is they are going to start prioritizing this very soon and it's going to be very usable on a 3-month time frame.

Definitely.

Keep an eye on the published roadmap on their wiki: https://github.com/aspnet/Home/wiki/Roadmap

Beta 7's focus on cross platform should be good!

Re: Visual Studio 2015 and .NET 4.6 Available for Download

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Post by wluu » Mon, Jul 20, 2015, 10:23 PM UTC

rottyguy wrote: post #37

Has anyone done anything interesting with Roslyn to date (v1 is mentioned in the notes)?

It's not using v1 yet, but check out omnisharp https://github.com/OmniSharp/omnisharp-roslyn

Re: Visual Studio 2015 and .NET 4.6 Available for Download

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Post by tracker1 » Mon, Jul 20, 2015, 10:29 PM UTC

itsuart wrote: post #68

mhomde wrote: post #54

I'm really loving how the refactor and generate stuff has developed over the years. It is such a different experience these days and I'm probably at least five times as productive as a result of it. First we had no refactor tools at all, and how we survived I'll never now Then basic refactor tools where introduced. You could call up a dialog to do explicit refactoring. Then the generate functionality was introduced a…

Well, Resharper is available since VS2003 if not earlier. It has what VS2015 has to offer and more. Including extracting code into methods and classes. I can't even image the pain developing without it (at least before VS 2015).

I know a lot of guys that love Resharper.. me, I always found it annoying and in my way.

Re: Visual Studio 2015 and .NET 4.6 Available for Download

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Post by tracker1 » Mon, Jul 20, 2015, 10:32 PM UTC

Locke1689 wrote: post #50

minot wrote: post #45

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How about my release candidate that I installed about a month back? Will it update automatically? Does it even need to? Did anything change?

Will it update automatically? Not as far as I know. Does it even need to? Prereleases expire. You'll probably need to upgrade. Did anything change? A fair bit, yeah. Not sure if you'll notice, but things will be different and a lot of stuff may not work correctly.

It's funny, but I started a user profile signing into a VS2013 version.. I had to reset my environment in order to get around some really buggy behavior in VS2015-RC ... that said, I do like most of the recent changes.