Although in this case, Pao isn't resigning from anything she put blood, sweat and tears into. Rather she showed up to a fully functioning project, kicked a hornets nest she had no right to kick based on a personal worldview of how people should be nice and more notably, profitable for her shareholders on the internet, then she got stung and ran away crying. I'm all for the type of quitting that this article talked ab…
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#42People born between the years of 1957 and 1965 had an average of 11.3 jobs between 1978 and 2010 Lightweights! I've had 88 jobs since 1972. Once a recruiter told me that everything on my resume was excellent except how often I switched jobs. How could that be? I told her that was because as soon as anyone gave me undue shit, I quit. No regrets. On many of them, I probably exercised too much patience and should have l…
You're resume would only be a problem if the company was looking for good little worker bees who don't ask questions and who will take shit all day long and ask for more. It's almost the perfect filtering mechanism for crap companies hahah.
It's a no-win situation. Unless, of course, you can do a better job of evaluating a job before you take it. But people need to pay rent, and heck yeah, companies straight-up lie about the jobs they offer.
Perhaps it's time for hiring companies to consider that even though employees are discouraged from saying negative things about a former employer, that sometimes yeah, that former employer was a jerk royale.
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#43There are 2 sides to this. 1. Quit: I spent a summer in investment banking, at a prestigious bank after 2 years of hustling at a state school (way easier to get this type of job at an ivy league). I left after a summer despite loving the people and perks -- it wasn't for me. 2. Persevere: While learning computer programming, it was rough to start from scratch. Seeing how slow I was compared to others was discouraging…
It seems like a recurring theme in these types of posts is that people leave high-paying jobs and that we should applaud them for "giving up" their salaries to do what makes them happy. Not that this is a bad thing (I applaud anyone who does something difficult in the pursuit of long-term happiness), but the fact that many people enter into unfulfilling job situations because they're drawn to the high profile and/or…
You can learn about coding on your own time anytime you want, at any age, on your own and with the help of free online courses, meetup's or paid courses etc.
Learning about M&A, building your professional network in investment banking, the financial markets is not so much accessible. Nothing against his enthusiasm/passion, I don't think OP was very wise to quit his job.
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#44I'm not sure what to make of this blog post. The author writes: >By resigning from Reddit, Behind the scenes, Ellen Pao could have been forced out (also known as being "fired") but presented publicly as a resignation. I thought we don't really know what happened? Therefore, it seems biased to frame a thematic essay about "quitting" around Ellen's circumstances. If she didn't voluntarily separate, it's not "quitting"…
And she didn't leave to pursue other interests; she was forced out for reasons not made public. She certainly was unpopular on Reddit, though it's hard to know how much of the Reddit zeitgeist/groupthink/circlejerk is manufactured by small groups of influential users. I think the board decided she had to go simply because they didn't want their user base leaving en masse, and getting rid of Ellen was the only thing that would satisfy the user base (or at least the "power user" base). From what I've read, the board is anxious to monetize the platform in some way, and it's hard to monetize a platform where trolling and harassment are as commonplace as they are on Reddit.
And to some extent, I'd say that Reddit itself actively resists commercialization. One of the greatest benefits of Reddit as a user is that the algorithm is relatively simple to understand: users upvote and downvote, and while it's easy to see how to game that system, it also allows for the possibility that content will rise to the surface organically (even if a lot of the content is manufactured and upvoted via click farms). You don't get that if you're restricting the content, and I think trying to commercialize it would destroy the feeling of chaos that makes it so successful.
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#45Why the assumption that Ellen Pao was not fired? It felt like one of these cases when an employee has a lengthy talk with her supervisors, after which she is given an option to quit, as a way to save her face. An evidence for that would be how fast was a new interim CEO found after the previous one "quit".
The example of Ellen Pao was merely a way to start the conversation. That specific example does not diminish the message of the piece which I find very insightful.
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#46I'm not sure what to make of this blog post. The author writes: >By resigning from Reddit, Behind the scenes, Ellen Pao could have been forced out (also known as being "fired") but presented publicly as a resignation. I thought we don't really know what happened? Therefore, it seems biased to frame a thematic essay about "quitting" around Ellen's circumstances. If she didn't voluntarily separate, it's not "quitting"…
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#47People born between the years of 1957 and 1965 had an average of 11.3 jobs between 1978 and 2010 Lightweights! I've had 88 jobs since 1972. Once a recruiter told me that everything on my resume was excellent except how often I switched jobs. How could that be? I told her that was because as soon as anyone gave me undue shit, I quit. No regrets. On many of them, I probably exercised too much patience and should have l…
Would you care to share a bit more on how you pulled that off? I am not asking in bad faith but everything I know says that you should have become unemployable after the first 7-10 years of doing that. Even assuming you quit (and conveniently left out of your resume) 2 jobs during the first few weeks for every one you stayed longer than a year, your job history would come as a major red flag in most places I have wor…
Pretty simple, actually:
1. Do the right thing, even if it's not popular.
2. Tell the truth.
3. Be nice.
Most importantly:
4. Be the best you can be. (You'll probably end up better than anyone else.)
I have never been unemployable because I have always added much more value than I've taken. Maybe I got this way because I never put up with too much shit.
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#48People born between the years of 1957 and 1965 had an average of 11.3 jobs between 1978 and 2010 Lightweights! I've had 88 jobs since 1972. Once a recruiter told me that everything on my resume was excellent except how often I switched jobs. How could that be? I told her that was because as soon as anyone gave me undue shit, I quit. No regrets. On many of them, I probably exercised too much patience and should have l…
Damn, 88 jobs in 43 years. Your average time at a job is 6 months. I'm feeling both a little better and a little worse at my 18 month average.
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
As someone who has worked on larger enterprise stuff this would be incredibly (like a salary a year incredibly) useful tool. It would do in software what a really good reliability engineer with years of knowledge can do "Foo has broken" "Nah foo is fine, someone changed Bar again without reading the wiki" stuff.
It's funny, the reactions I get. A lot of startup programmers who have never worked on large systems don't understand why it's so valuable. But those who have done big enterprise use phrases like "holy grail". But this is a HARD problem . Man, abstracting change in an actionable, readable, efficient way has been difficult. Not to mention the security issues and other headaches.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Would you care to share a bit more on how you pulled that off? I am not asking in bad faith but everything I know says that you should have become unemployable after the first 7-10 years of doing that. Even assuming you quit (and conveniently left out of your resume) 2 jobs during the first few weeks for every one you stayed longer than a year, your job history would come as a major red flag in most places I have wor…
Would you care to share a bit more on how you pulled that off? Pretty simple, actually: 1. Do the right thing, even if it's not popular. 2. Tell the truth. 3. Be nice. Most importantly: 4. Be the best you can be. (You'll probably end up better than anyone else.) I have never been unemployable because I have always added much more value than I've taken. Maybe I got this way because I never put up with too much shit.