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The Art of Quitting

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Re: The Art of Quitting

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Post by Facemelters »

ufmace wrote: post #21

I feel another rant about terrible marketing practices coming on after a minute on that site. No, I don't want to sign up for yet another email list for a site that I've read zero content on so far. No, I don't want to like you on FaceTwitInstaLinked yet. Let me read a few things in peace, and maybe if they're good, I'll like your stuff then. You're already starting off in a bad hole asking me for that stuff in a way…

sites would function that way if people actually did what you said you'd do if they waited.

Re: The Art of Quitting

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Post by beat »

geggam wrote: post #29
beat wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll be back with a "Show HN" once I get the beta running. I took several months last year to work on it full-time and got an alpha version working, which taught me a ton of things I didn't know I didn't know about the problem I'm tackling. Now, I'm working on a beta based on lessons learned from the alpha. The product is a way to answer the simple yet awful question, "What changed?" Configuration change is the prima…

opsmatic.com ?

A different focus, but same basic idea. ScriptRock, too. I met the founders of both of those companies at a conference last fall, and it was really interesting. The products diverge a lot, but we all see the same fundamental problem.

Re: The Art of Quitting

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Post by bkurtz13 »

jasode wrote: post #9

I'm not sure what to make of this blog post. The author writes: >By resigning from Reddit, Behind the scenes, Ellen Pao could have been forced out (also known as being "fired") but presented publicly as a resignation. I thought we don't really know what happened? Therefore, it seems biased to frame a thematic essay about "quitting" around Ellen's circumstances. If she didn't voluntarily separate, it's not "quitting"…

I agree, this post was pretty pointless and any relevance it has to Ellen Pao's situation is insubstantial.

Re: The Art of Quitting

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Post by arca_vorago »

edw519 wrote: post #24

People born between the years of 1957 and 1965 had an average of 11.3 jobs between 1978 and 2010 Lightweights! I've had 88 jobs since 1972. Once a recruiter told me that everything on my resume was excellent except how often I switched jobs. How could that be? I told her that was because as soon as anyone gave me undue shit, I quit. No regrets. On many of them, I probably exercised too much patience and should have l…

This is the same attitude I take. I have worked in many industries, and have participated in a few startups, but the bottom line is I don't put up with crap. I spent too much time in the Corps where I was basically a slave to ever function like that again (the civilian equivalent would be a salary job that underpays but expects you to work 60-80 hours a week without OT because you are "exempt").

Sometimes I felt bad for leaving, because I know whoever would be replacing me couldn't do as good a job, but it's just business (the business of my life).

One of the things that is good about this is that I have gotten a few vacations in between jobs I wouldn't have otherwise, not to mention the vast array of experiences that have really helped me have a bigger picture understanding of sysadmin'ing.

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Post by pitay »

a_shane wrote: post #20
zallarak wrote: post #16

There are 2 sides to this. 1. Quit: I spent a summer in investment banking, at a prestigious bank after 2 years of hustling at a state school (way easier to get this type of job at an ivy league). I left after a summer despite loving the people and perks -- it wasn't for me. 2. Persevere: While learning computer programming, it was rough to start from scratch. Seeing how slow I was compared to others was discouraging…

It seems like a recurring theme in these types of posts is that people leave high-paying jobs and that we should applaud them for "giving up" their salaries to do what makes them happy. Not that this is a bad thing (I applaud anyone who does something difficult in the pursuit of long-term happiness), but the fact that many people enter into unfulfilling job situations because they're drawn to the high profile and/or…

Sometimes you just get a terrible boss, most people would not be able to predict that happening.

Re: The Art of Quitting

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Post by zallarak »

a_shane wrote: post #20
zallarak wrote: post #16

There are 2 sides to this. 1. Quit: I spent a summer in investment banking, at a prestigious bank after 2 years of hustling at a state school (way easier to get this type of job at an ivy league). I left after a summer despite loving the people and perks -- it wasn't for me. 2. Persevere: While learning computer programming, it was rough to start from scratch. Seeing how slow I was compared to others was discouraging…

It seems like a recurring theme in these types of posts is that people leave high-paying jobs and that we should applaud them for "giving up" their salaries to do what makes them happy. Not that this is a bad thing (I applaud anyone who does something difficult in the pursuit of long-term happiness), but the fact that many people enter into unfulfilling job situations because they're drawn to the high profile and/or…

High pay is definitely a positive outcome. But it is one of several things that matter, not the only one. The fallacy I think lots of people fall for is to over-weigh its role in contentment - but it definitely does have a role.

Re: The Art of Quitting

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Post by myth_buster »

xacaxulu wrote: post #27
myth_buster wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ellen Pao was one of the examples. There are many other examples mentioned which the author uses to support their argument which is not whether Ellen Pao quit to pursue other interests but Everyone should quit something that really matters to them, at least once. We all need to feel what it’s like on the other side of a big success story. Only then will we all understand that quitting isn’t "giving up," but setting t…

Where 'quit' == 'being asked to resign' :-)

Did you mean !=

Isn't the theme of the article that quitting to start another pursuit is quite productive and not justifying Ellen Pao's move? I agree that the author may not know the reason behind Pao's resignation but that single argument doesn't break their point.

Re: The Art of Quitting

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Post by TerryADavis »

God put ten years into TempleOS.

I am in a CIA prison.

I would bet God will kill the CIA and make His temple popular.

You seem to be in denial on God talk, you God damn retard-nigger.

God damn you are one dumb fuck!

NIST is the whitest of the white, like NASA. You are such a dumb fuck.

I have a fucken SETI.

I have a fucken SETI, you God damn retard-nigger!

Re: The Art of Quitting

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Post by PopeOfNope »

edw519 wrote: post #24

People born between the years of 1957 and 1965 had an average of 11.3 jobs between 1978 and 2010 Lightweights! I've had 88 jobs since 1972. Once a recruiter told me that everything on my resume was excellent except how often I switched jobs. How could that be? I told her that was because as soon as anyone gave me undue shit, I quit. No regrets. On many of them, I probably exercised too much patience and should have l…

Damn, 88 jobs in 43 years. Your average time at a job is 6 months. I'm feeling both a little better and a little worse at my 18 month average.

Re: The Art of Quitting

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Post by crpatino »

edw519 wrote: post #24

People born between the years of 1957 and 1965 had an average of 11.3 jobs between 1978 and 2010 Lightweights! I've had 88 jobs since 1972. Once a recruiter told me that everything on my resume was excellent except how often I switched jobs. How could that be? I told her that was because as soon as anyone gave me undue shit, I quit. No regrets. On many of them, I probably exercised too much patience and should have l…

Would you care to share a bit more on how you pulled that off? I am not asking in bad faith but everything I know says that you should have become unemployable after the first 7-10 years of doing that. Even assuming you quit (and conveniently left out of your resume) 2 jobs during the first few weeks for every one you stayed longer than a year, your job history would come as a major red flag in most places I have worked at.

Of course, you have been building your career for longer than I have been alive, so there's stuff I obviously ignore.

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