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Re: Online Cheating Site AshleyMadison Hacked

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Post by Frozenlock » Mon, Jul 20, 2015, 1:33 PM UTC

Jugurtha wrote: post #57

As much as I admire and respect the United States and its people, I can't be but amazed by the reactions to sex stories. I have the impression that you can get away with anything, except sex. You can get away with incompetence, dilapidating tax payers' money, corruption, invasion of privacy, aggression on sovereign countries, authorizing torture, brutality, injustice. Big deal. Few care, and if they do, there are no…

It's worse than that. They are _utterly_ obsessed by sex.

They will blur images in medical training videos if they contain genitals.

They will also blur images of artificial insemination of animals. http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-3360...

Re: Online Cheating Site AshleyMadison Hacked

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Post by jkestner » Mon, Jul 20, 2015, 1:37 PM UTC

Jugurtha wrote: post #57

As much as I admire and respect the United States and its people, I can't be but amazed by the reactions to sex stories. I have the impression that you can get away with anything, except sex. You can get away with incompetence, dilapidating tax payers' money, corruption, invasion of privacy, aggression on sovereign countries, authorizing torture, brutality, injustice. Big deal. Few care, and if they do, there are no…

I'm with you on most of that, but Petraeus got off easy, considering he shared classified information with his mistress and then lied about it.

Re: Online Cheating Site AshleyMadison Hacked

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Post by koenigdavidmj » Mon, Jul 20, 2015, 1:46 PM UTC

dogma1138 wrote: post #79

lawnchair_larry wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So it's illegal to copy the phone book or class graduation lists?

Yes copying them is copyright infringement, if you build them from source yourself then the rules governing PII apply.

Phone books are not copyrightable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feist_Publications,_Inc.,_v._R....

Re: Online Cheating Site AshleyMadison Hacked

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Post by cozuya » Mon, Jul 20, 2015, 1:52 PM UTC

duncan_bayne wrote: post #105

ChiperSoft wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they didn't provide it, someone else would (and do). Like it or not, there is a demand for those sites.

Sure, but do those facts alter the (im)morality of their behavior?

Judge not?

Re: Online Cheating Site AshleyMadison Hacked

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Post by joeevans1000 » Mon, Jul 20, 2015, 2:05 PM UTC

Apparently, there is data from all around the world. I hope it's realized that some countries punish cheating by corporal punishment or worse. If the data is published, I hope the data of users from those countries are removed.

Re: Online Cheating Site AshleyMadison Hacked

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Post by StavrosK » Mon, Jul 20, 2015, 2:17 PM UTC

richmarr wrote: post #94

StavrosK wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My point is more that judging moral issues by whether there's a law against them is a facile argument, and that the GP needs a better one. I think we can all agree that cheating is morally reprehensible, and thus its facilitators are not morally justified.

@Asbostos is victim-blaming and defending viglilantism. Anyone who supports the rule of law should want to see the perpetrator of this on trial. Maybe the company who was breached should also be in court, but that's a different matter entirely.

I'm not sure Asbostos doesn't want to see the perpetrator of this on trial, they're just saying that the victim was immoral (and I'm not terribly sorry for them either).

I am also not convinced that vigilantism is always wrong. I can't blame the villagers who, after seeing a restaurant owner entice a dog with food only to kill it with a chair, never stepped foot in the restaurant again, effectively bankrupting it.

Re: Online Cheating Site AshleyMadison Hacked

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Post by dogma1138 » Mon, Jul 20, 2015, 2:18 PM UTC

koenigdavidmj wrote: post #113

dogma1138 wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes copying them is copyright infringement, if you build them from source yourself then the rules governing PII apply.

Phone books are not copyrightable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feist_Publications,_Inc.,_v._R... .

In the US maybe not, in Australia Telstra had copyright on the information in yellow and white pages till 2010, in the UK it's still protected by copyright as far as i know.

UK Law: "original non-literary written work, eg software, web content and databases"

Seems like the BT phone directory isn't protected however the database of yellow pages is still protected.

Re: Online Cheating Site AshleyMadison Hacked

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Post by mcphage » Mon, Jul 20, 2015, 2:57 PM UTC

MertsA wrote: post #27

Not too surprising. Security in the past has been worse than abysmal on that site. I had a friend that jokingly made an account and sent me a link to his profile. However, that link was also his entire session. Once in the profile section it would let you change the password without knowing the current password. And the last kicker, the change password box had asterisks in it on page load and a quick "view source" re…

> I had a friend that jokingly made an account

"a friend"

Re: Online Cheating Site AshleyMadison Hacked

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Post by ocfx » Mon, Jul 20, 2015, 3:10 PM UTC

philwelch wrote: post #11

ocfx wrote: post #6

Good. I hope the company goes bankrupt. People murder other people and kill themselves over shit like this.

People who commit murder and suicide over their insecurities and jealousies are responsible for their own actions.

Yes, but we shouldn't encourage it.

Re: Online Cheating Site AshleyMadison Hacked

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Post by amyjess » Mon, Jul 20, 2015, 3:11 PM UTC

Krebs has a bunch of information on this: http://krebsonsecurity.com/2015/07/online-cheating-site-ashl...

It's recently been updated with a statement by ALM.