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I laughed so hard while reading that.

Care to elaborate?

Come on, read Extremely Massive Corporation again, and try to think of an Extremely Massive Corporation which happens to deal in computer storage systems.

Re: “Let's talk about a hypothetical public-facing service”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Care to elaborate?

Come on, read Extremely Massive Corporation again, and try to think of an Extremely Massive Corporation which happens to deal in computer storage systems.

Some of us aren't in the environment where we'd know who EMC are :-)

Re: “Let's talk about a hypothetical public-facing service”

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I was hoping they would stay offline. It's really disappointing to see a good service turn into a money wringing desperation.

I was thinking similar thoughts from the other direction - that they have turned to money wringing desperation might mean there is no money to get the thing back up. If the situation turns out to be "it's dead Jim, we need to spend several million on a replacement EMC filer or shut down forever", it might be gone along with all the valuable projects hosted there.

In some ways the bundleware served like a SMART warning, causing people to back up and migrate their projects.

Re: “Let's talk about a hypothetical public-facing service”

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Come on, read Extremely Massive Corporation again, and try to think of an Extremely Massive Corporation which happens to deal in computer storage systems.

Some of us aren't in the environment where we'd know who EMC are :-)

There was a time when they had adverts on seemingly every page of every computing magazine. Although that may have been back when magazines were a thing and Sun were a hardware company.

Re: “Let's talk about a hypothetical public-facing service”

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> You have a moment where you envision the future of virtualized storage and think about how great it will be when storage is nearly free and outsourceable and you can stop buying disks from Amazon every few months The future is now! Instead of you sending money to Amazon and them sending you disks, they keep the disks and you send them the money anyway. Progress! :-D

If the disks only last so long, is it really so terrible that Amazon gets to keep the broken outdated junk?

Re: “Let's talk about a hypothetical public-facing service”

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> You have a moment where you envision the future of virtualized storage and think about how great it will be when storage is nearly free and outsourceable and you can stop buying disks from Amazon every few months The future is now! Instead of you sending money to Amazon and them sending you disks, they keep the disks and you send them the money anyway. Progress! :-D

Sadly, depending on what you want to accomplish with your storage the future is still not here. For example, if you want to share a virtual disk with multiple servers through NFS you will still need to manually create a NFS high-availability cluster using e.g. DRBD on most cloud providers (e.g. EC2 or Azure). To be fair, MS Azure offers fully managed SMB shares as a service, but the transfer speed is quite low (60 MB/s in the best case) so they are not very useful for most tasks.

Re: “Let's talk about a hypothetical public-facing service”

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Care to elaborate?

It's EMC. World's largest supplier of shitty storage hardware.

Yes. The main cause of my beeper going off at 3 AM during the time frame he talks about (early to late 00s) was due to brand new EMC storage hardware continually collapsing under a moderate load, even though the hardware's specs claimed it should have more than adequately handled the load. A load that the three year old, cheaper storage hardware that the EMC unit replaced had handled fine. Like they did, we did not really fix the EMC hardware, we just found ways to work around the problem.
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