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Is Microsoft’s Edge browser really faster than Google’s Chrome?

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Re: Is Microsoft’s Edge browser really faster than Google’s Chrome?

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Post by Joeri »

Gys wrote: post #34
theg2 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Well these tests don't meet my expectations so lets keep testing using other benchmarks until I'm validated".

Authors explanation: 'It seems like Microsoft has been targeting their optimization effort for the competitor benchmarks in order to show impressive results for their new product. When it comes to more intensive and complex HTML5 benchmarks they are still miles behind the competition.' Reasonable explanation to me.

I think instead they worked in JavaScript performance, so in js benchmarks like sunspider and octane they do well. Meanwhile their page loading was not as optimized, so benchmarks that test loading whole pages such as peacekeeper don't perform as well.

Re: Is Microsoft’s Edge browser really faster than Google’s Chrome?

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Post by anon1385 »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #3
FriedrichNahme wrote: post #2

Security, privacy and usability are much more important to me than raw performance.

For those three and web standards support, things look even worse for Edge.

Implementing the newest web 'standards' is often in conflict with security, privacy and usability.

Re: Is Microsoft’s Edge browser really faster than Google’s Chrome?

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Post by pbiggar »

The SunSpider benchmark is bullshit, and you shouldn't take anything from it. In particular, Chrome stopped optimizing for SunSpider with their last JIT, as they optimized for longer running apps (such as ones you'd find on the web) but took a hit on SunSpider.

But SunSpider is a really bad benchmark anyway. All benchmarks are bad and suffer real problems, but SunSpider more than most.

Re: Is Microsoft’s Edge browser really faster than Google’s Chrome?

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Post by 21echoes »

Trombone12 wrote: post #40

Absent from both the original blog post and the OP is Mozillas kraken test, is firefox simply dismissed as slow these days, and their benchmark just discarded to the annals of time? From arewefastyet.com they seem to be doing ok, (even if they keep testing some really slow chrome version for some reason) and so it seems strange they are being left out.

Yeah it seems rather ridiculous to me that Firefox isn't mentioned here -- Firefox consistently beats Chrome on the three major benchmarks (SunSpider, Octane, and Kraken).

Re: Is Microsoft’s Edge browser really faster than Google’s Chrome?

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Post by pmelendez »

bithead wrote: post #32

"Also note out previous tests with Linux Mint vs Windows 10 which suggest that Chrome actually runs faster on Linux than it does on Windows." Honestly, any test between a microsoft product and a competitor run on microsoft's operating system has to be viewed with a grain of salt. What's interesting here is the degree of trust given to a vendor that has tried to rig/break even hardware to lock out competition: http://…

From the text:

> "If seems unfortunate if we do this work and get our partners to do the work and the result is that Linux works great without having to do the work."

Maybe I'm being too naive, but this sounds more like he is concerned about giving away the work rather than locking people in.

I would prefer if these kind of initiative are open source but in my opinion each company have the right to release as they please the technology they develop. In my mind, this is the same case that Apple with the Thunderbolt, and I think is fair that if Apple decide to keep its technology as private they should be able to do so.

Re: Is Microsoft’s Edge browser really faster than Google’s Chrome?

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Post by Joeri »

bithead wrote: post #32

"Also note out previous tests with Linux Mint vs Windows 10 which suggest that Chrome actually runs faster on Linux than it does on Windows." Honestly, any test between a microsoft product and a competitor run on microsoft's operating system has to be viewed with a grain of salt. What's interesting here is the degree of trust given to a vendor that has tried to rig/break even hardware to lock out competition: http://…

Firefox runs faster on windows than Linux.

Re: Is Microsoft’s Edge browser really faster than Google’s Chrome?

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Post by lern_too_spel »

calvin wrote: post #5
lern_too_spel wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For those three and web standards support, things look even worse for Edge.

Based on what evidence? IE11 has pretty solid web standards support: https://status.modern.ie/?iestatuses=implemented&browserstat... And Edge promises a lot more.

It's significantly worse than Safari, and that's saying a lot. http://html5test.com/results/desktop.html

Re: Is Microsoft’s Edge browser really faster than Google’s Chrome?

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Post by Klathmon »

thekingshorses wrote: post #39
Klathmon wrote: post #7

It all depends on your workload. I'm working on a web app that uses typed arrays heavily. Chrome runs my test case in 2.7 seconds, Firefox in 3.2, and IE Edge in 23 seconds... (ie 11 in 30+) Now to be fair i developed "for" firefox, checking that it worked in IE and chrome the whole way, but that is a pretty large performance difference. Plus i've always hated benchmarks. They are so easy to "game" without real impro…

> Chrome runs my test case in 2.7 seconds, Firefox in 3.2, and IE Edge in 23 seconds... (ie 11 in 30+) I think you are doing something wrong. I have a light app and very heavy SPA (written really badly with almost 5mb of code, D3 + Highcharts). Still, both app loads in less than 4 seconds in IE 11, FF, Chrome and Safari.

It's not page load, its the actual application running.

It does some fairly heavy image manipulation in web workers using typed arrays. The app loads a little faster in IE (the code comes in just under 1mb), but the runtime of my few test cases are magnitudes slower.

Re: Is Microsoft’s Edge browser really faster than Google’s Chrome?

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Post by noinsight »

BinaryIdiot wrote: post #6

> For the Edge browser Microsoft has again decided to develop their own rendering engine, instead of relying on open source alternatives (Blink, Gecko, WebKit). I have to doubt their decision as a browser engine is a big development effort and they need to be updating it from now to eternity. Um, why would they move when they already have an engine? Sure you can argue they should have moved to WebKit or Gecko or even…

> Um, why would they move when they already have an engine?

Yeah obviously they didn't start from scratch, the new engine is just a forked Trident where they removed all the legacy cruft.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EdgeHTML

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