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USA tops International Math Olympiad for first time in 21 years

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Re: USA tops International Math Olympiad for first time in 21 years

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North Korea was caught cheating twice, and is the only country to have been caught cheating at the IMOs so far, so I would take their ranking with a grain of salt. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_International_Mathemat...

How does one cheat at a test of this sort?

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Re: USA tops International Math Olympiad for first time in 21 years

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it is a good news. because American become more confident in educating their kids in maths and abandon the idea that you can be lawyer if you are not good at math. on the other hand, Chinese can stop believing that math is highest form of intelligence and pursue career as lawyer etc.

Re: USA tops International Math Olympiad for first time in 21 years

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Astonishing performance (3rd place) by North Korea with pop. around 25m. Not sure what incentives were in place for the contestants.

Singapore at the 10th with fewer than 6 million people is also quite noteworthy. I wonder how much it has to do with importing talents or talented families from abroad, and how much from training starting at a young age. (I know that Thailand does have a series of math competition for kids starting at grade 3. This was started less than 20 years ago, which helps explain its much improved IMO performance over the last…

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Re: USA tops International Math Olympiad for first time in 21 years

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I looked a bit at the gender distribution for the gold and silver medalists, I would guess only 1 in 10-20 is a girl, most seemed to be from the eastern bloc countries.

I can't believe the audacity of Po-Shen Loh to send a team exclusively of boys to the IMO. When you have to select 6 team members how can you NOT select at least 1 female? This flies in the face of all the outreach work people have been doing to get more girls into STEM, and this victory will only discourage them. It appears the top 3 teams are all 100% boys. I'm delighted that this is currently the top comment here.…

And also, to make up for the temporal inequality (the past ratio), the teams should be something like 5/6 female.

And logically: until that happens, the school system isn't catering for half their population.

Re: USA tops International Math Olympiad for first time in 21 years

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does one cheat at a test of this sort?

Team leaders know the question in advance. They are seperated from the team, but if they want to communicate they can. http://www.quora.com/How-did-North-Korea-cheat-in-the-IMO-in... Edit: have a read of this page. It shows that marking is not just a case of comparing the answer papers with a pre-prepared answer script. There is discussion and debate involved. http://www.imo-register.org.uk/2010-report.html > Problem…

Interesting. Thanks for the response!

Re: USA tops International Math Olympiad for first time in 21 years

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you implying that it would be good if the ones sent were based on a gender balance rather than being chosen on their math ability?

He might be suggesting that Ukraine and Bosnia-Herzegovina are to be lauded for having an educational system that doesn't end up leaving half of the population behind.

You're talking about the U.S. educational system leaving men behind, right?

Because in America, women are more likely to graduate high school [0], enroll in college [1], graduate from college [2], and even make up 3/5's of graduate students [2].

[0] http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0779196.html

[1] http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/03/06/womens-colle...

[2] http://www.prb.org/Publications/Articles/2011/gender-gap-in-...

Re: USA tops International Math Olympiad for first time in 21 years

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I looked a bit at the gender distribution for the gold and silver medalists, I would guess only 1 in 10-20 is a girl, most seemed to be from the eastern bloc countries.

I can't believe the audacity of Po-Shen Loh to send a team exclusively of boys to the IMO. When you have to select 6 team members how can you NOT select at least 1 female? This flies in the face of all the outreach work people have been doing to get more girls into STEM, and this victory will only discourage them. It appears the top 3 teams are all 100% boys. I'm delighted that this is currently the top comment here.…

You usually send them based on performance in national comp, so there is no subjective selection, you just have to make it to top 5

Re: USA tops International Math Olympiad for first time in 21 years

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I looked a bit at the gender distribution for the gold and silver medalists, I would guess only 1 in 10-20 is a girl, most seemed to be from the eastern bloc countries.

I can't believe the audacity of Po-Shen Loh to send a team exclusively of boys to the IMO. When you have to select 6 team members how can you NOT select at least 1 female? This flies in the face of all the outreach work people have been doing to get more girls into STEM, and this victory will only discourage them. It appears the top 3 teams are all 100% boys. I'm delighted that this is currently the top comment here.…

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Re: USA tops International Math Olympiad for first time in 21 years

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post #26
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I looked a bit at the gender distribution for the gold and silver medalists, I would guess only 1 in 10-20 is a girl, most seemed to be from the eastern bloc countries.

I can't believe the audacity of Po-Shen Loh to send a team exclusively of boys to the IMO. When you have to select 6 team members how can you NOT select at least 1 female? This flies in the face of all the outreach work people have been doing to get more girls into STEM, and this victory will only discourage them. It appears the top 3 teams are all 100% boys. I'm delighted that this is currently the top comment here.…

This guy is being sarcastic, I don’t really understand the down votes. Maybe that’s just the way it is over here.

Re: USA tops International Math Olympiad for first time in 21 years

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post #26
post #9

I looked a bit at the gender distribution for the gold and silver medalists, I would guess only 1 in 10-20 is a girl, most seemed to be from the eastern bloc countries.

I can't believe the audacity of Po-Shen Loh to send a team exclusively of boys to the IMO. When you have to select 6 team members how can you NOT select at least 1 female? This flies in the face of all the outreach work people have been doing to get more girls into STEM, and this victory will only discourage them. It appears the top 3 teams are all 100% boys. I'm delighted that this is currently the top comment here.…

You forgot the Men's Rights Advocates and Gamergate brigades which immediately show up with posts like yours. (And send death threats to women posters and their families. http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/12/4693710/the-end-of-kindnes...)
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