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I could see 20% false positives on spam for Linus equating to 0.1% of false positives across the board since I suspect the people emailing Linus are 200 times more likely to be running their own mail server than the general public.
I don't understand why you think that makes this acceptable.
It might not be related, but I've been seeing some spam in my gmail inbox in the past month. It seems that something has upset the balance. For example, this went to my inbox: From: [...] Baby Subject: HELLO HANDSOME Body: HOW ARE YOU DOING
I could see 20% false positives on spam for Linus equating to 0.1% of false positives across the board since I suspect the people emailing Linus are 200 times more likely to be running their own mail server than the general public.
> I suspect the people emailing Linus are 200 times more likely to be running their own mail server than the general public. Assuming non-gmail servers are spammers is a pretty epic fail.
(There's been improvement - for example, recently I received mail from someone I'd corresponded with in the past, and it wasn't initially marked as spam. Gmail used to be more aggressive than that, such that it would be marked as spam unless it was a direct reply to an email I had sent.)
(...for extra irony, that recent message was "I'm stuck in England and can't get home without a few thousand dollars". Her account had been hacked.)
I've had a problem with false positives in my spam folder for months. A large percentage of the email newsletters I subscribe to end up in my spam folder every day, and clicking Notspam doesn't help. I can Notspam a certain newsletter every day for a week, and then the next day that same newsletter will end up in my Spam folder once again. I'm starting to think that Notspam signals have no effect at an individual lev…
Yep, Gmail's spam filters work based on the collective judgment of Gmail users. The core of your and linus' problem is a lot of people use the 'mark as spam' button as unsubscribe button for mailing lists.
I find this trend of "follow the majority" quite disturbing - it's as if they're implicitly saying that everyone should think the same way and punishing those who don't follow. What's spam to me may not be spam to you, and vice-versa.
Then again, having a personalised spam filter for each user would probably consume a huge amount of resources...
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Yes, my first reaction was also thinking those were indeed fake google emails. but I checked the logging in time and the from email address, they are legit (I got two emails like this filtered this week). those emails were sent from no-reply@accounts.I.google.com
wait, there is a line on top of that email saying: Why is this message in Spam? It has a from address in accounts.l.google.com but has failed accounts.l.google.com's required tests for authentication. what are required tests for authentication?
Say if Told you that your mother wears Army boots.
I'm kind of surprised that Linus uses Gmail. It's likely that he'll actually catch a Googler's attention, but for many of us, user feedback is not an option. @jacquesm's http://jacquesmattheij.com/ham-or-spam-gmail-not-to-be-trust... is another recent instance — but again, there's no call to action. Gmail is great for some people, but I prefer having more control, and I highly recommend https://FastMail.com if Gmail…
Source: I am an LF employee.
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The Gmail team recently launched[0] PostMaster tools[1]. I'm not sure if everyone has access, but maybe it would help? [0] http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2015/07/the-mail-you-want-not-... [1] https://postmaster.google.com/
You have to be a high volume sender with a good reputation (low spam reports) to get access to these tools.