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Homejoy says goodbye

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Re: Homejoy says goodbye

#61

If your company cannot afford to stay in the black with real employees (as opposed to contractors), you need to re-evaluate your business model. Edit: and the downvotes are rolling in! Would anyone who has downvoted this comment care to share why?

Or perhaps we need to re-evaluate our laws surrounding employment. Events like this (supposing they were caused by employment laws) are perfect illustrations of how overregulation kills jobs.

Re: Homejoy says goodbye

#62

The service was getting increasingly terrible in my market. I am not surprised at all to see it go the way of the dinosaur. Too bad, this type of service has a lot of value to busy professionals and people with families.

The housecleaning industry still exists without homejoy

Re: Homejoy says goodbye

#63
Homejoy customer here. For me, they succeeded in making home cleaning accessible to a guy in his early 30s who clicked a few buttons past a Facebook ad to schedule 2x/mo cleaning - a big stress reliever and quality of life improver. I never used a cleaning service prior to Homejoy.

Where they failed was in providing an adequate supply of cleaners (no one available for weeks on occasion) and last-minute cancellations without substitutes.

Never did a cleaner solicit me to hire direct, but I DO think Homejoy should leave their customers with a way to reach the cleaners I did like for rehiring. Why not, after all?

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#64
post #7

I used Homejoy and I liked it's ease of use. But after the cleaning lady they sent me was done, she offered me her direct phone # and told me I could contact her directly for any future cleaning needs. I always wondered how this business model was going to work if Homejoy's contractors could just give out their phone # at the end of their first service and the customer could just contact them directly for any future…

For these sorts of businesses (Upwork, Homejoy, etc.) Legal protections and payment processing are reasons to encourage people to stay in the system.

Re: Homejoy says goodbye

#66
post #5

what happened?

Many stories about their problems, but here's one: http://fusion.net/story/142578/homejoy-uber-for-x-startups-m... And maybe the main one: http://recode.net/2015/07/17/cleaning-services-startup-homej...

If Homejoy cleaners were going to be classified as employees, entitled to minimum wage and subject to being verified as citizens or legal residents, then this seems like the right move. I can't see how they would ever be able to compete on price with all of the independent outfits out there that employ undocumented workers.

It's one thing to sell your services at a loss while you're growing. In the home-cleaning business, though, there will never be a shortage of undocumented immigrants willing to work for less than minimum wage, quite possibly at a higher quality level. There would be no way to ever raise prices to fully cover costs without immediately losing out to that competition.

Re: Homejoy says goodbye

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post #7

I used Homejoy and I liked it's ease of use. But after the cleaning lady they sent me was done, she offered me her direct phone # and told me I could contact her directly for any future cleaning needs. I always wondered how this business model was going to work if Homejoy's contractors could just give out their phone # at the end of their first service and the customer could just contact them directly for any future…

It's tough being a middleman parasite.

Re: Homejoy says goodbye

#68
post #4

No surprise there. Tone-deaf marketing and there was a horror story a few years ago about the culture.

Was this the company that posted their ad directly onto HN talking about how happy they were to be working on Christmas eve (or whatever holiday it was)?

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#69

I never used the Homejoy service, but I was in the audience for the Startup School Europe talks last year where Adora gave a fantastic speech (Notes: http://theinflexion.com/blog/2014/07/26/notes-from-startup-s... ) about going through so many ideas and working so hard to get to Homejoy. The talk's ending had a 'And look, we made it, so you can too' feel, and I had no idea that they were doing anything but crushing i…

I get the opposite reaction when I hear of someone grinding away until they've got a startup. I understand that investors invest in people. But the idea has to have a life of it's own, and a value on its own. I remember when urban adventure games were a thing, and a thing that tended to attract very energetic people. But it was shown that no matter how much hustle you've got, urban adventure games are not an investable thing.

Re: Homejoy says goodbye

#70
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So then they didn't get paid and you didn't get a clean home? That seems like a loss for both parties. Also, Homejoy let you tip, with 100% of that money going to the cleaner(s). I usually gave the cleaners a 20% tip.

I would pay more for a professional cleaner. I have no idea what the experience level of the average Homejoy cleaner is but I had very mixed experiences when I used them.

Ah, that objection (varying quality) is more understandable.

I didn't have a single bad experience. The level of cleaning was the same as other services.

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