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A film about sadistic behaviour isn't necessarily a celebration of it.
It set up a false dichotomy between being abusive to students in order to achieve excellence and softballing them with praise so they'll never work hard. Most people I've talked to bought into this dichotomy after watching this movie, thinking that there is some kind of tradeoff between greatness and abusiveness. The movie legitimizes this false dichotomy, not by condoning the abuse, but by implying that it is the un…
Why “Whiplash” Won an Oscar for Best Editing
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#42On Film Editing Kindle Edition by Edward Dmytryk (http://www.amazon.com/Film-Editing-Edward-Dmytryk-ebook/dp/B...)
In the Blink of an Eye Revised 2nd Edition by Walter Murch (http://www.amazon.com/Blink-Eye-Revised-2nd/dp/1879505622) (sadly no Kindle version exists for this one yet)
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#43I thoroughly despised this movie. To me it felt like a celebration of a sadistic abuser mind-raping a kid, and never being punished for it. No music teacher I know would have gotten away with what Fletcher did without going to jail. This is not how you teach jazz. This is not how you teach anything.
Also, many teachers have a lot in common with the one in the film. A lot are worse. (SPOILER: Modulo the unlikelihood of someone competing after stumbling about and obviously bleeding profusely.)
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While you are right it is a false dichotomy. It isn't completely made up either. Greatness can (often) be achieved through abusively pushing someone to their limits... Like most elite sports athletes... Am I way off base thinking this?
Many examples would prove you right, but I can't help thinking it would be better to fuel someone's desire for excellence instead of abusively pushing him. Counter example would be Marion Bartoli who won wimbledon against all odds and her own limits, pushed by her father, then immediately stopped being a professional tennis player. Too many sacrifices. Pretty common in women pro tennis.
> "I left football and overnight I could not walk anymore. In two days I could not walk...I peed in the bed, the bathroom was 3 meters away, because I did not want to get up. It was 4 am and I knew as soon as I stood my ankle would kill me. (... ) "I went to see the doctor (specialist in Orthopaedics and trauma) Avanzi and told him to cut off my legs. He looked at me and he said I was crazy. I insisted. I couldn't bare it any longer. I can't explain to people how bad the pain was," he said
from here: http://www.conmebol.com/en/content/batistuta-i-asked-they-cu...
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Many examples would prove you right, but I can't help thinking it would be better to fuel someone's desire for excellence instead of abusively pushing him. Counter example would be Marion Bartoli who won wimbledon against all odds and her own limits, pushed by her father, then immediately stopped being a professional tennis player. Too many sacrifices. Pretty common in women pro tennis.
And there was also the case of Argentinian footballer Gabriel Omar Batistuta, one of the greatest strikers of all times, who had this to say about the time which followed the end of his career: > "I left football and overnight I could not walk anymore. In two days I could not walk...I peed in the bed, the bathroom was 3 meters away, because I did not want to get up. It was 4 am and I knew as soon as I stood my ankle…
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#46The Curious Case of Benjamin Button was nominated for Best Sound Mixing. And you have to wonder if it really had far and away better sound editing than hundreds of other films that year.
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#47The reason it is oscar-worthy is : drums are by definition repetitive, a character playing drums is mostly static, there are no real dialogs possible while drums are being played, and the movie overcame all these obstacles.
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#48I thoroughly despised this movie. To me it felt like a celebration of a sadistic abuser mind-raping a kid, and never being punished for it. No music teacher I know would have gotten away with what Fletcher did without going to jail. This is not how you teach jazz. This is not how you teach anything.
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Spinal Tap. Point Break. Sneakers. Primer.
I remember reading a review/summary/explanation of Primer that was written up--by necessity--in LaTeX.
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#50Interesting article - I am always curious how the psychology behind the edits subconsciously plays into my understanding of, and feelings toward, character dynamics. For those who haven't seen it, Whiplash is my favorite movie of the past several years. The "third act" is probably the most intense finale I've seen in quite some time as well. Highly recommended to anyone, musical background or not.
Even as a musician, it's the human expression side that talked to me. Expressing your voice and ideas. Also the existential notion of time, no rush no drag, very important outside of the instrument. The final part was like being in a rocket taking off, pretty intense.