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We don’t trust drinking fountains anymore, and that’s bad for our health

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Yes, we are all familiar with the Mythbusters episode, which does not take anything away from the fact that particulates will be in higher concentrations inside a public restroom. Increased concentration means increased risk of transference and consumption. As to your other point, people are not only touching the external edges of the aerator, but the aerator itself, which water does come in contact with. Lastly, the…

Increases dramatically to what? I don't think there have ever been any cases of people being made ill due to drinking water from the taps in a public bathroom anywhere . Interestingly, the water from the kitchen cold tap in a house is cleaner and safer than bottled water - according to a harm reduction leaflet for IV drug use in the UK, may be different in other countries, admittedly.

A bit of research showed me that the hot tap and kitchen (and bathroom?) taps are often drawn from the main, which is often an uncovered source in the attic which can collect dead bugs/rodents and such and that scenario is fairly common.

I don't imagine many public restrooms draw from an uncovered main like they do in residencies, but I don't live in the U.K. so won't pretend to know such a detail. Furthermore I'm led to believe the cold tap would be fine, it's the hot tap you have to be wary of.

>I don't think there have ever been any cases of people being made ill due to drinking water from the taps in a public bathroom anywhere.

I can't help but imagine that is likely due to the fact very, very, very few people would drink water from the tap of a public bathroom and tracing it down to such a detail would likely prove to be difficult unless many people drank from that bathroom.

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To the person who downvoted, mind explaining why attempting to do research into U.K plumbing to educate myself on a difference between U.S plumbing and U.K plumbing is a downvote-worthy offense? I wouldn't think twice about drinking from a U.S public bathroom if I was thirsty. I'm being led to believe I shouldn't from a U.K bathroom due to plumbing differences between the U.S. and the U.K.

If I have collected any misinformation you should instead correct me so that others do not receive wrong information. Thank you.

Re: We don’t trust drinking fountains anymore, and that’s bad for our health

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I've always found it kind of funny that in "capitalist" US, there is free water all over the place. It's one of my favorite things to drink good, clean water for free in Portland after getting off a long flight from Europe. In "socialist" Europe, you're pretty much stuck with expensive bottled water in places like airports, unless you have a cup or something and don't mind drinking from the bathroom faucets. OTOH, on…

There are water fountains in every airport in Europe (and pretty much the world, it's regulatory) they are usually located in or near the restrooms. Not to mention that pretty much every restaurant will give you tap water for free.

I don't think I have ever seen a water fountain in a European airport. I have definitely never seen a water fountain in a WC. Who is regulating the water fountains worldwide?

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I've always found it kind of funny that in "capitalist" US, there is free water all over the place. It's one of my favorite things to drink good, clean water for free in Portland after getting off a long flight from Europe. In "socialist" Europe, you're pretty much stuck with expensive bottled water in places like airports, unless you have a cup or something and don't mind drinking from the bathroom faucets. OTOH, on…

There are water fountains in every airport in Europe (and pretty much the world, it's regulatory) they are usually located in or near the restrooms. Not to mention that pretty much every restaurant will give you tap water for free.

I don't think I have ever seen a water fountain in a European airport. I have definitely never seen a water fountain in a WC. Who is regulating the water fountains worldwide?

Re: We don’t trust drinking fountains anymore, and that’s bad for our health

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post #28

I've always found it kind of funny that in "capitalist" US, there is free water all over the place. It's one of my favorite things to drink good, clean water for free in Portland after getting off a long flight from Europe. In "socialist" Europe, you're pretty much stuck with expensive bottled water in places like airports, unless you have a cup or something and don't mind drinking from the bathroom faucets. OTOH, on…

There are water fountains in every airport in Europe (and pretty much the world, it's regulatory) they are usually located in or near the restrooms. Not to mention that pretty much every restaurant will give you tap water for free.

I don't think I have ever seen a water fountain in a European airport. I have definitely never seen a water fountain in a WC. Who is regulating the water fountains worldwide?

Re: We don’t trust drinking fountains anymore, and that’s bad for our health

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post #191
post #188

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Increases dramatically to what? I don't think there have ever been any cases of people being made ill due to drinking water from the taps in a public bathroom anywhere . Interestingly, the water from the kitchen cold tap in a house is cleaner and safer than bottled water - according to a harm reduction leaflet for IV drug use in the UK, may be different in other countries, admittedly.

A bit of research showed me that the hot tap and kitchen (and bathroom?) taps are often drawn from the main, which is often an uncovered source in the attic which can collect dead bugs/rodents and such and that scenario is fairly common. I don't imagine many public restrooms draw from an uncovered main like they do in residencies, but I don't live in the U.K. so won't pretend to know such a detail. Furthermore I'm le…

Unfortunately, it's useless to attempt finding out why someone downvoted you. HN pretends to pride itself on civil discourse, but the reality is that, just like in life, the assholes run the show. It's a shame, because you are exactly right in your reasoning and research.

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If you don't touch it with your mouth and run it for a few seconds you'll be just fine. Also the human body spends all day killing most common bacteria, mold, and similar. You don't even know it is happening. If you got sick every time you came in contact with another person's bodily fluids then you'd be sick almost daily, you'd certainly never go out to eat again, or ride public transport. My point is, your fears ar…

This is a great point. It's like the people that open the restroom door with a paper towel. They must realize that the people who don't was their hands touch all the other doorknobs as well? I'd guess the bathroom door is probably the cleanest knob you'd encounter (since lots of people wash their hands before leaving).

Blugh, I can't count the number of times I've watched guys walk out without washing their hands. I don't get it. Is it just a guy thing, or is it common everywhere?

Re: We don’t trust drinking fountains anymore, and that’s bad for our health

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Yeah, I stopped drinking at water fountains after I realized that half the kids I saw drinking from them were practically swallowing the spigot whole. It's not tap water I'm afraid of, it's the distribution device. It's a attractive breeding-ground for every form of nasty.

If you don't touch it with your mouth and run it for a few seconds you'll be just fine. Also the human body spends all day killing most common bacteria, mold, and similar. You don't even know it is happening. If you got sick every time you came in contact with another person's bodily fluids then you'd be sick almost daily, you'd certainly never go out to eat again, or ride public transport. My point is, your fears ar…

That's a good point, and it's what I do when I need to drink from a fountain. I just got back from Egypt, you should see their solution: clay pot, one cup, everyone drinks from it :) Side-note, after having a child, I've found myself getting more germ-adverse, not less. I'm not sure why.

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Public bathrooms in NE, BE, FR, GB are paid per use and far between. My mom has stories of jumping under the stalls if they didn't have the shilling, sixpence or whatever it was in the 60's. In LA, it's mostly systematic hatred targeting minorities and homeless people from completely necessary bodily functions... which is dumb to deny, because they'll do it 'round back for spite... the owner could so just be cool and…

I would be surprised if the Starbucks in San Francisco would give out water for free to someone who looked like they'd been living on the rough.

They do because they don't want the person to cause a scene. Most restaurants feed homeless people if they ask nicely too.

It's not so much a kindness thing as a shrewd prevention of costly issues.

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Not sure if it's illegal here, but in South Africa restaurants are expected to serve you tap water if you ask for it. Doing otherwise would be rude, and most waiters (even at pubs) will clarify if you want 'bottled or tap' and 'with ice and lemon.' I have noticed a strange phenomenon in Europe too, please forgive me if I'm generalising as I'm aware it's a big place, but people there seem like they won't do something…

> That doesn't happen here. Instead, the delivery guy usually helps you unpack the item of delivery, and the plumber will offer his opinion on a job he was not necessarily called in to fix. And how much are you expected to tip these people?

optional. sometimes nothing. sometimes like $2.

Re: We don’t trust drinking fountains anymore, and that’s bad for our health

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Not sure if it's illegal here, but in South Africa restaurants are expected to serve you tap water if you ask for it. Doing otherwise would be rude, and most waiters (even at pubs) will clarify if you want 'bottled or tap' and 'with ice and lemon.' I have noticed a strange phenomenon in Europe too, please forgive me if I'm generalising as I'm aware it's a big place, but people there seem like they won't do something…

Sounds like a cool place to live. Over here a plumber will give you a consultation, but regarding delivery, if you live at an appartment the delivery guy will deliver to the building, if you want it delivered to the doors of your appartment, it will cost extra, per floor. Installation will probably be additional expenses. Sure some retailers offer full delivery and installation for free (or included in price), but th…

it has its ups and downs. we do have a high crime rate and sub standard internet so everything's a tradeoff :)
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