Ask HN: Freelancers in the US: What do you do for health insurance?
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#23Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan. When we started out it only cost about $500/month. Jumped to $890 and deductible went to $23K with the affordable healthcare act. Basically, now we pay all of our health care out of pocket.
I started freelancing in 2012 with BCBS of MI. Being young-ish and healthy with no kids, just a spouse, I was paying something around $200/mo for a PPO with an HSA (side note: get an HSA and save - it's your best option for not being screwed as a freelancer). 3 years later and the AHA has left me at $400 a month for a HMO (downgrade), higher deductable (downgrade), but thankfully I still am allowed to use an HSA (HSA compatibility is complete bullshit, BTW).
Everything is out of pocket except some bare minimum prevention stuff. Everything trip to the doctor involves me wondering if it's really worth the money and the hassle (thanks to the HMO I can no longer see my old family doctor).
Those of you bound to say that I should shop around using the marketplace - yup, I did. This was the best deal. Insurance is dependent on geography. I'd love to see an app that told me which address would give me the most reasonable insurance. Any takers?
My suggestion - budget something like $500/mo/person. Half for insurance and half for saving in the HSA. As a freelancer you'll likely make too much money to have any of your insurance covered by the government. It's outrageously expensive, but if you have serious health problems, a $12.7k deductible is way less than potentially ten times that in hospital bills.
As an aside - I do believe the AHA did some good. I had friends in states without a non-profit insurance provider like BCBS who simply could not leave their jobs due to pre-existing conditions. That no longer happens, thankfully. However - we can do better. It's insane that I have to weigh the monetary cost of going to the doctor in my decision to go. Of course we all go for an acute illness, but I believe there are millions with minor chronic illness that are simply not getting treated because they cost of even the most common diagnostic tests is astronomical.
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#24I'm in the Boston area, YMMV. I left my job in 2011. I did a few months of COBRA, which I found unreasonably expensive. I'm currently paying about $380/month on a BCBS individual plan with a $6K deductible (costs have risen about $5-$10/mo per year since I joined). I don't think my experience will help you much (single), but I'm putting this out there for others who might be interested. BTW I have never met the deduc…
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#25Some areas of the country seem to have been better served with the passage of ACA, but much of NC seems in the dark ages. I think we've got one other company that's now serving our county this year, and they're ... 20% more expensive, IIRC.
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#26Oscar is great in the NYC / NJ area ( https://www.hioscar.com/ ). They do a good job of lveraging technology and are less confusing than other insurance companies. They even have a program with Misfit where you get $1 per day for reaching your steps goal. Lowest premiums I've found. I'm paying less than $1,000 per month total for myself, my wife, and my kid.
The Affordable Care Act has really taken the pain out of insurance when working for yourself. Things like Freelancers Union were almost a necessity before the ACA. Now individuals can buy insurance at competitive rates and without worrying about "pre existing conditions".
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#27I just had to purchase health insurance two week ago in the state of MI(Just turned 26). I had 3 options: 1. Obama Care - I qualified for a $16 subsidy... 2. Individual plan from a health care provider in state 3. Health Share plan (think Credit union for health care) Obama care cost 2x as much as an individual plan, and almost 3x as much as a health share plan, so even after the subsidy, this was not an option. Heal…
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#29Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan. When we started out it only cost about $500/month. Jumped to $890 and deductible went to $23K with the affordable healthcare act. Basically, now we pay all of our health care out of pocket.
That's atrocious. We're in Michigan and only pay $798/mo for a $1,500 individual /$3,000 family PPO through HAP for my wife and I. Individual deductible for ACA plans is limited to $6,600 individual and $13,200 family, so you may want to shop around for a new plan during open enrollment this year.
If he has a healthy family who does not need coverage outside of basic physicals, then its likely he purchased this plan to only cover catastrophic events, I know I would rather purchase the $500/m with 23k deductible rather then the $1000/m 13k deductible if I only planned on using coverage in the event of a horrible catastrophe.
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#30After ACA, it got a lot better. Currently we have PPO through HMSA in HI. About $650/mo for me, my wife and one kid. Kind of high ded ($1500/$3000), but drugs are covered and also with basic vision and dental.