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Re: NSA releases open-source infosec tool

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Post by irishcoffee »

azraomega wrote: post #25
gorgak wrote: post #15

any hacker who supports the NSA or GCHQ is a traitor to the hacker culture and to the human race. these disgusting people must be stopped. the americans and british geopolitical meddling made their own enemies which they implore you to give your freedoms up for (or did, your freedoms are gone right about now) - the NSA and GCHQ need to be completely abolished and the money put into sustainable communities and fuck th…

kinda extreme. Most of them probably go there for employment opportunity, nothing to do with whatever ideology. Calling them names just sound so immature and unprofessional at best.

To that point, if NSA actually shut down tomorrow, the Baltimore/DC metro area would collapse into financial ruin. Not exaggerating.

Re: NSA releases open-source infosec tool

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Post by gorgak »

surge wrote: post #27
golergka wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> traitor to the hacker culture and to the human race Regardless of whether your sentiment is right or not, do you really expect a comment with phrases like this to be taken seriously?

I assume by the smiley face at the end, he wasn't, and was being tongue in cheek the entire time, you just don't realize it until the end.

about as far off as you could get, i was entirely serious, and it appears quite a few people agree with me. the smiley face was to indicate the controversial nature of the subject matter and the fact that i am now on a list and the death squads will be round shortly :) atb.

Re: NSA releases open-source infosec tool

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Post by tvanantwerp »

irishcoffee wrote: post #31
azraomega wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

kinda extreme. Most of them probably go there for employment opportunity, nothing to do with whatever ideology. Calling them names just sound so immature and unprofessional at best.

To that point, if NSA actually shut down tomorrow, the Baltimore/DC metro area would collapse into financial ruin. Not exaggerating.

Bring it on--maybe I could finally afford a house around here!

Re: NSA releases open-source infosec tool

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Post by briandear »

gorgak wrote: post #15

any hacker who supports the NSA or GCHQ is a traitor to the hacker culture and to the human race. these disgusting people must be stopped. the americans and british geopolitical meddling made their own enemies which they implore you to give your freedoms up for (or did, your freedoms are gone right about now) - the NSA and GCHQ need to be completely abolished and the money put into sustainable communities and fuck th…

How many friends of yours were blown up by IRA or shot by the UVF? How many people lost arms and legs at Omagh? Sustainable communities would be great. Let's start by helping Hezbollah build co working spaces in Beirut. Maybe the next Twitter is just waiting to be created by former Shia militias. The next time ISIS cut off a head or Islamists kill someone like Theo Van Gogh for doing nothing more than making a movie, we should instead offer to build them a community garden and start a bike share program.

Joking aside, the naivety of your comment is striking and reveals an exceptionally ignorant view of the world.

The NSA and GCHQ certainly aren't perfect and politicians with their abuses don't help things, however those organizations have saved more people than you'd know and they are the reason we don't have 9-11s each week. Why do you think Osama Bin Laden's network was so ineffective in doing anything after 9-11? They could barely communicate. Bank accounts, cell phones, other electronic communications were nearly all off limits to Bin Laden's organization. Don't you think that is ISIS had the chance, they'd bomb downtown San Fransisco?

I disagree with warrantless surveillance; I also disagree with police brutality; that doesn't mean that I want to eliminate the police. The world is full of bad people, evil people, monsters; serving single origin coffee and installing more windmills isn't going to change that.

As far as being a traitor to hacker culture, grow up. You sound like ZeroCool or some other such childish caricature. Hacker culture is that of exploration, discovery and creation. It's about freedom. It isn't about anarchy or destroying the establishment. It certainly isn't about being a 21st century Neville Chamberlain. It's about standing up for what's right and speaking out against what's wrong -- and working to fix it.

The NSA isn't perfect. The government isn't perfect. That doesn't mean we throw them out because they aren't working as well as they should.

Re: NSA releases open-source infosec tool

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Post by yAnonymous »

briandear wrote: post #34
gorgak wrote: post #15

any hacker who supports the NSA or GCHQ is a traitor to the hacker culture and to the human race. these disgusting people must be stopped. the americans and british geopolitical meddling made their own enemies which they implore you to give your freedoms up for (or did, your freedoms are gone right about now) - the NSA and GCHQ need to be completely abolished and the money put into sustainable communities and fuck th…

How many friends of yours were blown up by IRA or shot by the UVF? How many people lost arms and legs at Omagh? Sustainable communities would be great. Let's start by helping Hezbollah build co working spaces in Beirut. Maybe the next Twitter is just waiting to be created by former Shia militias. The next time ISIS cut off a head or Islamists kill someone like Theo Van Gogh for doing nothing more than making a movie,…

>they aren't working as well as they should

That's putting it very lightly. In many ways, they're doing the opposite of what they're supposed to.

Sometimes software is so broken that it's impossible to repair and throwing it out and starting new is the best way to go. It's the same with organizations and governments.

Re: NSA releases open-source infosec tool

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Post by UserRights »

briandear wrote: post #34
gorgak wrote: post #15

any hacker who supports the NSA or GCHQ is a traitor to the hacker culture and to the human race. these disgusting people must be stopped. the americans and british geopolitical meddling made their own enemies which they implore you to give your freedoms up for (or did, your freedoms are gone right about now) - the NSA and GCHQ need to be completely abolished and the money put into sustainable communities and fuck th…

How many friends of yours were blown up by IRA or shot by the UVF? How many people lost arms and legs at Omagh? Sustainable communities would be great. Let's start by helping Hezbollah build co working spaces in Beirut. Maybe the next Twitter is just waiting to be created by former Shia militias. The next time ISIS cut off a head or Islamists kill someone like Theo Van Gogh for doing nothing more than making a movie,…

The naivety of your comment is striking and reveals an exceptionally ignorant view of the world.

Re: NSA releases open-source infosec tool

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Post by tomjen3 »

golergka wrote: post #21
gorgak wrote: post #15

any hacker who supports the NSA or GCHQ is a traitor to the hacker culture and to the human race. these disgusting people must be stopped. the americans and british geopolitical meddling made their own enemies which they implore you to give your freedoms up for (or did, your freedoms are gone right about now) - the NSA and GCHQ need to be completely abolished and the money put into sustainable communities and fuck th…

> traitor to the hacker culture and to the human race Regardless of whether your sentiment is right or not, do you really expect a comment with phrases like this to be taken seriously?

I, in all seriousness, completely support that statement. Not the rest of it, but that part I do.

Re: NSA releases open-source infosec tool

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Post by grkvlt »

gorgak wrote: post #15

any hacker who supports the NSA or GCHQ is a traitor to the hacker culture and to the human race. these disgusting people must be stopped. the americans and british geopolitical meddling made their own enemies which they implore you to give your freedoms up for (or did, your freedoms are gone right about now) - the NSA and GCHQ need to be completely abolished and the money put into sustainable communities and fuck th…

> traitor to the hacker culture

I don't understand the weird disconnect between HN and the intelligence community. It's almost the perfect job for a 'hacker' type: work with cutting edge technology and thousands of other incredibly intelligent people to try and out-think adversaries to gain access to their resources. You get to build defensive and offensive software to attack computer systems, and actually use it, something that would get you arrested if you did it personally. This was why I loved penetration testing, and an obvious extension of financial security would be working in national security. Yet somehow, these guys are 'evil' now, notwithstanding the IRA and otehrs in the UK, the 9/11 and 7/7 attacks, and so on - those were all perpetrated by _actual_ evil people, who deserved to be investigated and followed and found. And, looking at the leaked documents, there is a huge amount of auditing and checking - don't do this, because it's illegal, don't search for that because it's against the law - not the wild west free-for-all that people seem to imagine.

Anyway, if I could get a clearance, I'm sure I'd love working for GCHQ or SIS in the infosec arena, as would most hackers. The cognitive diasonance is strong in many people!

Re: NSA releases open-source infosec tool

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Post by UserRights »

fcanela wrote: post #3
fcanela wrote: post #2

Forbidden message appears to me. Here is the google cached version: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Iac_dvJ...

Aims to avoid duplication of effort for govt agencies. The US National Security Agency has offered up one of its cyber security tools for government departments and the private sector to use freely to help counter threats and raise their security posture. The systems integrity management platform - SIMP - was released to the code repository GitHub over the weekend. SIMP helps to keep networked systems compliant with…

Do you remember that backdoor that was found in SELinux a few years ago?
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