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Firefox makes click-to-activate Flash the default

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Re: Firefox makes click-to-activate Flash the default

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The problem is the long tail of sites or site features that don't work without flash and users who rely on those sites or site features. I've heard Facebook video and last.fm streaming don't work without Flash for eg.

Tidal and Deezer are others which require flash. Both have desktop apps, however.. Tidal's desktop app is awful and laggy to the extent I prefer using the web interface; Deezer's Windows app lacks some features compared to the web player.

These music streaming sites use Flash because they want DRM.

Re: Firefox makes click-to-activate Flash the default

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When all browsers disable Flash, a ton of old artistic content will become unaccessible. I'm thinking specifically about Homestuck animations and minigames, but other people will have their own favorites. Is there a good transition plan?

Someone could write an Adobe Air application to play old Flash content outside of a browser.

Re: Firefox makes click-to-activate Flash the default

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The new Google Maps is also dramatically slower, laggier, and buggier than the old version which was a regular web app built to work on browsers from 2005. I think the terribleness of recent Google web front-ends (not only Maps and Street View but also Search, Mail, Groups, Gplus, etc.) is mostly a product of incompetent management process internal to Google, rather than an indictment of web technology generally.

FWIW, Google Maps are generally noticeably slower and laggier in Firefox when compared to Chrome.

Same with Inbox and Sheets. It's really getting annoying, since I prefer Firefox.

Re: Firefox makes click-to-activate Flash the default

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Why? Copy FROM clipboard would be, sure. Copy TO clipboard... OK, I can come up with scenarios where it'd be a problem, but they're pretty far-fetched.

Run a timer overwriting your clipboard every 10ms. Prevent you from copying anything off a webpage and instead replacing it with a copyright notice. Etc., etc., etc.

Flash has offered these same clipboard APIs for years and these clipboard "attacks" have never been a problem before. I don't see how replacing Flash clipboard APIs with HTML clipboard APIs will change web developers' behavior.

Re: Firefox makes click-to-activate Flash the default

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This is great. Let's continue: remove pocket, remove hello

Oh please don't remove pocket, this is one of the awesome feature of Firefox along with Tree Style Tab (and if it was just me I would add Tree Style Tab by default as well) (And of course I go against the public opinion here on HN, but I wonder how many people did actually use Pocket before trashing it?)

Pocket had an add-on that was working just fine. The old one even needed less space than the new button and didn't require a cookie.

I'd reinstall the old one but "This add-on has been removed by its author".

Re: Firefox makes click-to-activate Flash the default

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This is great. Let's continue: remove pocket, remove hello

1) Open the menu 2) Click "Customize" 3) Drag pocket and / or hello from the tool bar into "Additional tools and features" 4) Take a breather, phew that wasn't too hard was it? https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/customize-firefox-contr...

For some reason, I keep having to do that - it doesn't stick. And every version brings more unwanted toolbar buttons I need to remove. I'm seriously considering looking into building a version of Firefox with them patched out altogether.

Re: Firefox makes click-to-activate Flash the default

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One slightly annoying thing i found right now is that if i have a plugin set as disabled in about:addons, it will not show up on the update checker found in the top link.

The (unprivileged) Plugin Check website can't detect disabled plugins because they don't show up in navigator.plugins. Ideally, Plugin Check should be an automatic check built into Firefox. The advantage of the Plugin Check website is that it works in any browser.

Couldn't you preserve the nice trait of working in any browser by having the browser load it with a hash-fragment containing a list of disabled plugins to add to navigator.plugins?

Re: Firefox makes click-to-activate Flash the default

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What made Flash so fast ? was it direct unsafe access to the metal or was there some black magic in their code ?

I don't know that it's particularly faster than what can/could be accomplished with svg + JavaScript ... I think most of the speed as a plugin vs native html/svg/js is that you don't have the whole DOM to deal with (including reflows, etc), and that their ActionScript is a much smaller subset of a language than JS in the browser, AS3 changed things a bit though. Today with canvas and an audio api that mostly works, y…

They did - it was called Edge. The truth of the matter is HTML etc simply can't do what Flash does effortlessly, so it never got anywhere.
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