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Firefox makes click-to-activate Flash the default

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Re: Firefox makes click-to-activate Flash the default

#171

This is priceless http://i.imgur.com/3uNsIF2.png

Does anyone know why this is showing up on Github as well? I just saw this banner when I logged in. Why would Github be using Flash? (A quick Google search shows they used to use it for the network graph but it is now Canvas.)

Don't they use it on their "copy URL button"?

Re: Firefox makes click-to-activate Flash the default

#172

This is priceless http://i.imgur.com/3uNsIF2.png

Does anyone know why this is showing up on Github as well? I just saw this banner when I logged in. Why would Github be using Flash? (A quick Google search shows they used to use it for the network graph but it is now Canvas.)

They seem to use it for clipboard access, some repository links have a button that puts the URI in you clipboard automatically. I'm not sure if there is anything else they are using it for.

Re: Firefox makes click-to-activate Flash the default

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And since when you have to please everybody ? Flash developers are a minority, and they have no power to influence the market. The sooner Adobe abandons the dead horse, the better for all of us. Kevin has gone away for years now, and Adobe's force is not based on Flash anymore (disclaimer: I own Adobe stock)

Its not like html5 has all of the features required to replace flash cross platform. These changes force developers, especially those that work in video publishing to implement a variety of implementations for each device whereas flash gave us one platform that technically works on everything but is now disabled intentionally.

From the outside looking in, I have to imagine this has been on the industries radar for a while. I mean flash has had some pretty steady hate for a while, coupled with advances with other mechanisms becoming increasingly robust. It may create more work but surely work that was not unexpected.

Re: Firefox makes click-to-activate Flash the default

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I have a lot of experience of end users and they are forever telling me that they get so many different "Update this", "Update that" windows that they can no longer distinguish real from fake. Some of them have been tricked by fake web site pop-ups as a result, others ignore legitimate update messages. I do not blame them. Internet Explorer and Google Chrome get updated in a way that most end users find to be simple…

Flash bundles things like Chrome, Mcafee etc. That's the real reason they don't want a auto-update. Google pays them a lot for bundling Chrome(I think it's around $1 per install). They keep breaking the auto-update on purpose so that they can make a ton of money by bundling other software. Same with Java updates.

And that's downright weird, given that Chrome use a different plugin API and thus get Flash bundled.

Even Windows has Flash via the updater.

Just about the only browser that use the old API is Firefox.

Re: Firefox makes click-to-activate Flash the default

#176

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I have a lot of experience of end users and they are forever telling me that they get so many different "Update this", "Update that" windows that they can no longer distinguish real from fake. Some of them have been tricked by fake web site pop-ups as a result, others ignore legitimate update messages. I do not blame them. Internet Explorer and Google Chrome get updated in a way that most end users find to be simple…

Yes! I admin my parents' computers and after trying to explain which 'update' windows are genuine, I realised that there just isn't a good way to tell them apart. Silent auto-updates are really the right way to go for non-techies. Even the post-upgrade 'announcement' popups are confusing. For instance, I've installed Ghostery on their computers and the 'ghostery has been updated' popup is just confusing for them, lea…

Given other comments here, i find myself once more reminded of Upton Sinclair.

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!"

Re: Firefox makes click-to-activate Flash the default

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Does anyone know why this is showing up on Github as well? I just saw this banner when I logged in. Why would Github be using Flash? (A quick Google search shows they used to use it for the network graph but it is now Canvas.)

Github uses flash for the 'copy to clipboard' button to copy an http or ssh url to the clipboard.

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Re: Firefox makes click-to-activate Flash the default

#179

This is priceless http://i.imgur.com/3uNsIF2.png

The final act of HTML5 delusion - it becomes "ready" because we say it's "ready". It's just someone forgot to ask Flash (game) developers' opinion. Not that it matters, right?

It's 2015 and it has been clear for at least 5 years that Flash was going to die eventually. If you still haven't migrated away or - worse - are still developing new apps in Flash, it's your own fault.

Re: Firefox makes click-to-activate Flash the default

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Github uses flash for the 'copy to clipboard' button to copy an http or ssh url to the clipboard.

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What privacy implications are you thinking of? (I have not thought about this before.)

And again, a quick Google search shows this [0]. But perhaps you mean a more backwards-compatible solution?

[0] - http://stackoverflow.com/a/30810322/1507139

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